A Female's Guide To Male Dominance - 7/14/09

[12:09] Dominic Rahja: welcome all to the college of kink
[12:10] Dominic Rahja: as usual I start with some copied text
[12:10] Dominic Rahja: this is to start a discussion
[12:11] Dominic Rahja: a few simple and basic rules first
[12:11] Dominic Rahja: if you gota question or remark..do type an @
[12:11] Dominic Rahja: that way I know you wanta turn
[12:11] Dominic Rahja: and I wait for you
[12:11] Dominic Rahja: I call your name
[12:12] Dominic Rahja: its handy to type a # soon u stopped typing
[12:12] ***LC*** feels these rules weird...
[12:12] Dominic Rahja: allright
[12:12] ***NZ***: lol
[12:12] ***JZ***: but effective
[12:12] ***NZ***: nods
[12:13] Dominic Rahja: topic today got a lot to do with female subs looking for a guy to be their master
[12:13] Dominic Rahja: but..
[12:13] Dominic Rahja: it aint that easy
[12:13] ***JZ***: no kidding
[12:13] Dominic Rahja: surely u can drop on your knees to the first who tells you hes a master
[12:14] Dominic Rahja: but I dont think thats very wise
[12:14] Dominic Rahja: btw, not only I am slow, so is the chat lag
[12:15] Dominic Rahja: when my sentences dont come out in the right order, call the lindens
[12:16] Dominic Rahja: one of the issues lots of female subs went through is the huge amount of fake masters
[12:16] Dominic Rahja: and after a while you might even get tired seeking one
[12:17] Dominic Rahja: therws hope..there are mistresses too
[12:17] Dominic Rahja: laffs
[12:17] ***MS***: lol
[12:17] Dominic Rahja: what I am going to present you, is the so called acid test
[12:17] Dominic Rahja: I copy text to you which is not written by Me
[12:18] Dominic Rahja: its written by a female sub
[12:18] Dominic Rahja: and it surely is good text
[12:18] Dominic Rahja: but mainly, its food for discussion
[12:18] Dominic Rahja: ok, here it comes
[12:18] Dominic Rahja: The term 'Acid Test' is an old prospecting term.
[12:19] Dominic Rahja: A powerful acid can dissolve most base metals in a matter of minutes.
[12:19] Dominic Rahja: Gold however, will stand up to most acids.
[12:19] Dominic Rahja: The 'Acid Test' was an easy way for people to make sure they had a real nugget of gold and not a lump of the 'fool's' variety.
[12:19] Dominic Rahja: In the same way, these tests are meant to be quick ways to identify fake Doms.
[12:19] Dominic Rahja: Passing all these tests is no guarantee either.
[12:20] Dominic Rahja: There is no replacement for getting to know your prospective partner as well as possible BEFORE YOU EVEN MEET IN PERSON.
[12:20] Dominic Rahja: Most of these tests are designed for a submissive female trying to sort through men claiming to be Doms online.
[12:21] Dominic Rahja: Thse tests are best for ferreting out male fakes.
[12:21] Dominic Rahja: Vanilla males are usually after 'easy sex' and this motive makes them easier to identify than a lot of the fake Doms out there.
[12:21] Pirate Russell: @
[12:22] Dominic Rahja: ok..here comes the acid test itself
[12:22] Dominic Rahja: yes Pirate
[12:22] Pirate Russell: The "easy sex" test helps find Dommes being run by Males, too!
[12:22] Dominic Rahja: haa
[12:22] Dominic Rahja: yes it does
[12:22] ***LC*** smiles
[12:22] Dominic Rahja: doesnt matter what avie they got, a male is a male
[12:23] Pirate Russell: Ain't that the trufff...
[12:23] Dominic Rahja: for sure its a fact that many males use a female mistress avie form for what reason
[12:23] Dominic Rahja: but thats another subject
[12:23] Dominic Rahja: ok
[12:24] Dominic Rahja: the test
[12:24] Dominic Rahja: Step One: Do the Math
[12:24] Dominic Rahja: Various estimates and surveys have placed the ratio of true (i.e., natural) male sexual Dominants to female sexual submissives at about one to ten.
[12:24] Dominic Rahja: However, a quick count in any given D/s oriented chat room would lead you to believe that male Doms outnumber the subs at about two to one.
[12:25] Dominic Rahja: btw this about all chat rooms in general
[12:25] Dominic Rahja: in sl the numbers are a little different
[12:25] Dominic Rahja: Now if there is actually only one male Dom for every ten female subs, that means that 19 out of the 20 "Doms" you see online HAVE TO BE FAKES.
[12:26] Dominic Rahja: Keep this in mind. there is a 95% chance that any man you talk to online claiming to be a Dom is no such thing.
[12:26] Dominic Rahja: This leads us to our first rule, a rule that all statisticians and scientists already know by heart: "When in doubt, throw it out!"
[12:26] Dominic Rahja: Your search for a suitable Dominant partner (especially if you are seeking a serious long term relationship as well) could easily take years.
[12:27] Dominic Rahja: That's hardly surprising, most people spend years looking for that special lover, be they 'vanilla' or otherwise.
[12:27] Dominic Rahja: Don't be disheartened by all these drastic ratios.
[12:27] Dominic Rahja: BUT DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME either.
[12:28] Dominic Rahja: If any of the prospects you are chatting with online makes you feel uncomfortable for any reason, drop him. Don't give him 'three strikes' or 'extra chances to win.'
[12:28] Dominic Rahja: Block out his screen-name and move on.
[12:28] Dominic Rahja: There was only a one in twenty chance he was legitimate anyway.
[12:28] Dominic Rahja: Trust your instincts!
[12:28] Dominic Rahja: btw...
[12:29] Dominic Rahja: like I said, the text is not written by Me, but good for discussion
[12:29] Dominic Rahja: Step Two: Know Your Enemy
[12:29] Dominic Rahja: We call them Snerts.
[12:29] Dominic Rahja: We call them HNG's (Horny Net Geeks).
[12:29] Dominic Rahja: We call them Wannabes.
[12:30] Dominic Rahja: We call them Control Freaks.
[12:30] Dominic Rahja: Sometimes, tragically, we even find some that can only be called rapists and predators.
[12:30] Dominic Rahja: They are all your ENEMY.
[12:30] Dominic Rahja: Don't bother thinking they are anything less.
[12:30] Dominic Rahja: Even a more or less well meaning Snert can land you in a hospital.
[12:31] Dominic Rahja: Sexual Dominance and submission is not for dilettantes or amateurs: Not, now, and never!
[12:31] Dominic Rahja: Even if he turns out to be a more or less nice guy, if he's not a Dom, he's not going to give you what you really need.
[12:31] Dominic Rahja: He will likely give you many things you don't (like medical bills and other assorted headaches).
[12:31] Dominic Rahja: hehe
[12:31] Dominic Rahja: Snerts
[12:31] Dominic Rahja: Snerts are basically looking for easy sex.
[12:32] Dominic Rahja: They are counting on the (highly inaccurate) assumption that sexual submissives are simply 'easy lays.'
[12:32] Dominic Rahja: Nothing could be farther from the truth, but that doesn't deter them at all.
[12:32] Dominic Rahja: They are typically middle aged to somewhat older men.
[12:32] Dominic Rahja: They are often married.
[12:33] Dominic Rahja: They are usually trying to bolster their flagging vanilla sex lives with some casual screwing around.
[12:33] Dominic Rahja: They target submissives because they think that they won't make demands on there sexual prowess (another bad assumption).
[12:33] Dominic Rahja: They can be easily spotted because they almost always demand or at least emphasize sexual intercourse being a part of their 'scenes.'
[12:33] Dominic Rahja: btw..
[12:33] Dominic Rahja: ask their time zones
[12:34] Dominic Rahja: when they always come online after midnight, their wives gone to bed
[12:34] Dominic Rahja: laffs
[12:34] Dominic Rahja: The HNG (Horny Net Geek)
[12:34] Dominic Rahja: HNG's are usually the most harmless (and yet often the most annoying) of the enemy types.
[12:35] Dominic Rahja: Most are teenagers and young men looking for some quick cyber-sex or even phone-sex.
[12:35] Dominic Rahja: They are usually pretty sophisticated about there D/s jargon and the 'scenes' they describe to you can be pretty elaborate.
[12:36] Dominic Rahja: Geeks do their homework.
[12:36] Dominic Rahja: They scour the porno sites for ideas, and hang out in D/s chats for hours on end learning the 'lingo.'
[12:36] Dominic Rahja: The are most easily spotted because they want to move on to cyber-sex and phone sex very quickly.
[12:36] ***LC***: @
[12:37] Dominic Rahja: yes ***LC***
[12:37] ***LC***: I'm wondering if good Doms couldn't have started being HNG's ?#
[12:37] Dominic Rahja: that might be possible of course
[12:38] Dominic Rahja: but usually these guys are not interested in taking responsibilities
[12:38] Dominic Rahja: in a minute I tell you a true story
[12:38] Dominic Rahja: They like to offer online collars, and spend hours on end in chat rooms 'playing' with their 'subbies.' Don't waste your time with them.
[12:39] Dominic Rahja: ok...between the lines
[12:39] Dominic Rahja: years ago in another chat room I had this friend
[12:39] Dominic Rahja: she was an over 30 single woman in the usa
[12:39] Dominic Rahja: and online she found this master
[12:40] Dominic Rahja: he was good at it
[12:40] Dominic Rahja: and she fell in love with him
[12:40] Dominic Rahja: they played online with 3d avatars like here in sl
[12:40] Dominic Rahja: but they never voiced
[12:40] Dominic Rahja: or called
[12:40] Dominic Rahja: she was about to visit him in England
[12:41] Dominic Rahja: untill
[12:41] Dominic Rahja: she suddenly got a phone call from a boarding school
[12:41] ***MS***: oh my, this couldn't have ended well.
[12:41] Dominic Rahja: his teachers found out he was cybering
[12:41] Dominic Rahja: he was a 12 yo boy
[12:42] Dominic Rahja: she was devestated u can imagine
[12:42] ***LC***: omg ! such a precoce lil Dom !
[12:42] Dominic Rahja: but keep in mind that kids are good players
[12:42] Dominic Rahja: always check as much as you can
[12:42] Dominic Rahja: ok
[12:43] Dominic Rahja: on with the acid test
[12:43] Dominic Rahja: Control Freaks
[12:43] Dominic Rahja: The second most dangerous type of enemy is the Control Freak.
[12:43] Dominic Rahja: Control freaks are what most psychologists and therapists call 'controlling personalities.'
[12:43] Dominic Rahja: They are the type of person that wants to be in control of everything around them.
[12:44] Dominic Rahja: They want all their family and friends to behave exactly as they say.
[12:44] Dominic Rahja: They are extremely manipulative people.
[12:44] Dominic Rahja: These men can be dangerous because many really have convinced themselves that they are Dominants as a justify their dysfunctional lives.
[12:44] Dominic Rahja: Many inexperienced submissives may find themselves 'naturally' attracted to these men because outwardly they seem so 'in command' of things all the time.
[12:45] Dominic Rahja: The truly ironic (and sad) thing is, a controlling personality is actually the closest thing to the OPPOSITE of a sexual Dominant.
[12:45] Dominic Rahja: Controls Freaks can be spotted because they often talk about 'taking care of you' and also 'knowing what's best for you'.
[12:45] Dominic Rahja: They almost always try to play on your emotions; especially guilt.
[12:46] Dominic Rahja: They also usually criticize and even resent the advice you get from other people.
[12:46] Dominic Rahja: They often talk about 24/7 D/s relationships without going into any details about what kind of actual scenes they play
[12:46] Dominic Rahja: They are fond of telling you that they prefer the 'mental aspect' of Domination and submission.
[12:46] Dominic Rahja: They tend to be both demanding and argumentative.
[12:47] Dominic Rahja: Nothing you do will ever be 'quite right.'
[12:47] Dominic Rahja: While all this may seem very repulsive and easy to avoid, be on your guard, the average control freak often seems very charming initially.
[12:47] Dominic Rahja: Once they have their 'hooks' into you its very hard to get untangled.
[12:47] Dominic Rahja: ok
[12:47] Dominic Rahja: now a real bad group
[12:48] Dominic Rahja: prolly a small minority, but an exsisting one
[12:48] Dominic Rahja: Rapists and Predators
[12:48] Dominic Rahja: The last and most dangerous type of enemy is the rapist or predator.
[12:48] Dominic Rahja: These are the men most likely to damage or even end your life.
[12:49] Dominic Rahja: The truly frightening thing about these evil men it that there is NO easy way to spot them.
[12:49] Dominic Rahja: Rapists can be anything from bums to bank mangers, and anyone from family members to total strangers.
[12:49] Dominic Rahja: One in four women has suffered an attack from this vile creature, and one in seven men as well!
[12:49] Dominic Rahja: There motive is violence.
[12:49] Dominic Rahja: The best defence is never make yourself too vulnerable.
[12:50] Dominic Rahja: To defend yourself from predators, learn all the in's and out's of setting up a good Safety Net.
[12:50] Dominic Rahja: Follow these procedures religiously.
[12:50] Dominic Rahja: Most important of all TAKE YOUR TIME getting to know your prospective play partners
[12:50] Dominic Rahja: This is good advice in any case. If you know your partner well, you're more likely to have a good time with him (because you will feel more comfortable during that first Scene).
[12:51] Dominic Rahja: Predators are more likely to move on in search of easy prey, they do tend to be impulsive.
[12:51] Dominic Rahja: If a 'Dom' you have been talking too suddenly seems to loose interest in you after a period of time, you may have just saved your own life.
[12:51] Dominic Rahja: Don't go chasing after anybody. A true Dom doesn't need to play 'hard to get.'
[12:52] Dominic Rahja: this was a list of: enemies
[12:52] Dominic Rahja: ok
[12:52] Dominic Rahja: maybe u ask yourself: where are the good guys in this?
[12:52] Dominic Rahja: but this is about the risks involved when your not careful ennuf
[12:53] Dominic Rahja: surely there are a lot of good Doms
[12:53] Dominic Rahja: but nevertheless a lot of freaks
[12:53] Dominic Rahja: Step 3: Know your goal!
[12:53] Dominic Rahja: Take the time to figure out what you want.
[12:53] Dominic Rahja: It's often hard for newbie subs to do this because sometimes they lack knowledge of what choices are available to them.
[12:54] Dominic Rahja: . ARM YOURSELF WITH KNOWLEDGE!!!
[12:54] Dominic Rahja: here are many fine publications, books, and internet websites that cater to sexual submissives, so start reading!
[12:54] Dominic Rahja: Learn about the different types of play and how they should be conducted.
[12:54] Dominic Rahja: Learn everything you can about how to set up a Safety Net.
[12:55] Dominic Rahja: Learn all the do's and don'ts of meeting others and playing safely.
[12:55] Dominic Rahja: Decide what your limits are and set them down on paper.
[12:55] Dominic Rahja: This may seem like a lot of homework to do in the name of fun, but also keep in mind that that it's your ASS that's (literally) on the line here.
[12:55] Dominic Rahja: Know what a real Dom acts like. Remember, you are probably a sexual submissive because you ARE in control the rest of the time.
[12:55] Dominic Rahja: You are strong! Likely even ambitious as well.
[12:56] Dominic Rahja: You have a career, or goals, or a lifestyle that demands this high level of energy and control.
[12:56] Dominic Rahja: Giving away your control can be a beautiful respite from everyday life.
[12:56] Dominic Rahja: Your power and energy is something you only want to give to someone you trust, and in intimate situations at that.
[12:56] Dominic Rahja: It's a very personal thing to you!
[12:57] Dominic Rahja: Well guess what, sexual Dominants are usually the compliment of this.
[12:57] Dominic Rahja: Doms are strong people too, we do tend to be intelligent.
[12:57] Dominic Rahja: Doms are often highly trained professionals or skilled craftsmen.
[12:57] Dominic Rahja: However, we tend to avoid lifestyles and careers that demand they be in control all the time.
[12:57] Dominic Rahja: Doms tend to be easygoing. I have never in my life met, or even heard of, an uptight sexual Dominant.
[12:58] Dominic Rahja: We like being in control in INTIMATE situations.
[12:58] Dominic Rahja: any questions class?
[12:58] Dominic Rahja: I know its a bunch of text
[12:59] Dominic Rahja: but what it comes to is the fact that you bring your own personality in this
[12:59] Dominic Rahja: giving away your soul, isnt something you should do with the devil
[13:00] Dominic Rahja: but to one you can trust
[13:00] Dominic Rahja: I select some part of the text what I got left
[13:00] Dominic Rahja: and I'll hand you the full text after
[13:01] Dominic Rahja: Step 4: Memorize the Acid Tests!
[13:01] Dominic Rahja: When in doubt, throw it out! Don't waste your time with people that make you feel uncomfortable.
[13:01] Dominic Rahja: Even if the guy was a real Dom, if his personality makes you feel uncomfortable ,he's not going to be fun to play with.
[13:01] Dominic Rahja: "You'd better call me Sir!" is the mating call of a HNG or control freak.
[13:01] Dominic Rahja: Real Doms don't have to ask for titles, we EARN them. Most real Doms will say things like "please, call me Mike..."
[13:02] Dominic Rahja: btw
[13:02] Dominic Rahja: My opinion
[13:02] Dominic Rahja: I do believe a title does show respect
[13:02] ***NZ***: yes Master
[13:02] Dominic Rahja: just a small addition
[13:02] Dominic Rahja: but one that makes a Dom feel proud
[13:03] ***NZ***: yes Sir
[13:03] Dominic Rahja: but surely, it is not the most important thing in life
[13:03] Dominic Rahja: "I want you to take my collar before you play with me."
[13:03] Dominic Rahja: This is another common demand of fakes, most often made by control freaks.
[13:03] Dominic Rahja: They have to isolate you from other people and their advice, and sometimes a little ole "cyber-collar" is just the thing!
[13:04] Dominic Rahja: Cyber-collars are worth less other than the leather required to make one.
[13:04] Dominic Rahja: If you get an Instant Message that says something like "On your knees you [slave, slut, bitch,whore, etc.]"
[13:04] Dominic Rahja: This is the mating call of the HNG.
[13:04] Dominic Rahja: Use some common sense here.
[13:05] Dominic Rahja: Why waste your time with somebody that's not even polite?
[13:05] ***OE***: @ comment only
[13:05] Dominic Rahja: There's a time and a place for these endearing terms, and it isn't online!
[13:05] Dominic Rahja: yes ***OE***
[13:05] ***OE***: trust me when i say TRUST*GUT INSTINCT* i will tell you why, as one who has been in this situration, if that little voice within is ignored, you've just lead yourself into a situration of what i will call *CRITICAL MASS* that was me.
[13:05] Dominic Rahja: you know
[13:06] Dominic Rahja: all these things can be played in a scene
[13:06] Dominic Rahja: but that doesnt mean that Dom is like that
[13:06] Dominic Rahja: sometimes ( for some) it can be fun to be called names
[13:07] Dominic Rahja: but there s a difference bewteen being called slut or slut
[13:07] Dominic Rahja: if you know what I mean lol
[13:07] Dominic Rahja: "I don't have to answer that question!" or "It's not proper etiquette for you to ask a Master that." are examples of some the dangerous LIES that control freaks and snerts use.
[13:08] Dominic Rahja: This is the Acid test I personally think is the most important
[13:08] Dominic Rahja: A Dom had better be ready to at least TRY and answer every question you have, and HONESTLY at that!
[13:08] ***NZ***: welcome witch
[13:08] Dominic Rahja: Its literally your ass that's on the line! Never forget this!
[13:08] ***LF***: helllo
[13:09] Alexxa Xue: @
[13:09] Dominic Rahja: Alexxa?
[13:09] ***mZ***: @
[13:09] Alexxa Xue: WhatsYour opinion of a dom married in rl who wants to have a dom/sub relationship in sl?
[13:09] Dominic Rahja: thats very well possible
[13:10] ***LF***: why Not
[13:10] Dominic Rahja: for one: when someone is honest about that
[13:10] ***LF***: I have
[13:10] Dominic Rahja: when one hides his rl relationship, thats always wrong
[13:11] ***LF*** aggree
[13:11] Dominic Rahja: and of course, when things are brought into intimacy in any way
[13:11] Dominic Rahja: it would be nice if all involved agree to that
[13:11] Dominic Rahja: consensual is the big word
[13:12] Dominic Rahja: I mean: they can tell you, hey Im married but I hate her
[13:12] Dominic Rahja: thats not an excuse
[13:12] ***MS***: @ would like to make a comment.
[13:12] Dominic Rahja: sure ***MS***
[13:13] ***MS***: Thanks. I am new to the whole Dom/sub thing, and am married in RL.
[13:13] ***NZ***: @ Master may i say about Us
[13:14] ***MS***: My husband knows what I do on here and knows everything that I am looking for on here. I think some people go through here, because, as is with me, I cannot get certain things from him, because he *hubby* is not like that.
[13:14] Dominic Rahja: yes after ***MS*** sweets
[13:14] Dominic Rahja: nods
[13:14] ***MS***: So, I think it goes both ways. And if everyone, including your sig in rl is okay with it, why not. #
[13:14] ***LF***: @ would like to make a comment to
[13:14] ***OE***: @
[13:15] Dominic Rahja: here on sl there are many married ppl exploring the D/s side
[13:15] Dominic Rahja: can only enrich your married life I should say
[13:15] Dominic Rahja: ***NZ***, and then ***OE***
[13:15] ***JZ*** nods
[13:15] ***NZ***: imy husband what i do in SL knows my Master knows what tasks i do for my Owner an was alright an informed of my RL Meeting with my Master
[13:15] Dominic Rahja: and ***LF***
[13:15] ***NZ***: Knows
[13:16] ***LC*** whispers: sorry Sir gotta leave *waves & poofs*
[13:16] Dominic Rahja: dont forget that por case is very exceptional baby
[13:16] ***NZ***: all is consentual with all parties involved
[13:16] ***JZ***: @
[13:16] ***LF***: I a happy married in Rl with my sub... He is online to, and have a Sl Mister,, I have a Master... So we both get some somehink we dont get in Rl... and both our Sl partner know about....
[13:16] Dominic Rahja: I mean, how many husbands or wives would approve a rl meet
[13:17] Dominic Rahja: not many
[13:17] Dominic Rahja: yes ***LF***
[13:17] ***OE***: my partner in rl view this lifestlye as abuse. only due to the fact he's seen only the worst. in rl and esp. online
[13:17] Dominic Rahja: nods
[13:17] ***LF***: we have been hunest about it
[13:17] Dominic Rahja: point is: if one doesnt understand, then it can become a problem
[13:18] ***OE***: yes. reason i show by example
[13:18] Dominic Rahja: theres a whole bunch there who look upon D/s as a freak show
[13:18] ***LF***: Yes... My Old Master want me to get a divorve.... so we have to stop
[13:18] Dominic Rahja: and that view is supported by law
[13:19] Dominic Rahja: and the bible not to forget
[13:19] ***JZ***: @
[13:19] Dominic Rahja: and of course laws have to be there
[13:19] Dominic Rahja: ***JZ***?
[13:19] ***OE***: i know of a rl situration where the Sadist knew the laws of what state to meet. contractional up held.
[13:19] ***JZ***: Sir do you hand out transcripts of this class after you are finished?..... I lost my notes when i crashed. :(
[13:20] Dominic Rahja: yes I and out this text and the whole class notes will be put on Pirates blog
[13:20] Dominic Rahja: oh yes ***OE***..they study well
[13:21] Dominic Rahja: I can give you an example of how easy your rl is to track
[13:21] Dominic Rahja: suppose you meet a guy
[13:21] Dominic Rahja: and he asks you a lot of questions
[13:21] Dominic Rahja: btw most do soon they know you are submissive
[13:22] Dominic Rahja: you tell him you got a job
[13:22] Dominic Rahja: at Wal Mart
[13:22] Dominic Rahja: the next day u tell him you gotta go to work at 8.30
[13:23] Dominic Rahja: and every day u come back online when home at 6pm
[13:23] Dominic Rahja: then after a while u tell you are in Colorado
[13:23] Dominic Rahja: and you describe the landscape
[13:23] Dominic Rahja: or you tell him you been shopping in a near by city
[13:24] Dominic Rahja: athen, u tell him your first rl name
[13:24] ***NZ***: soo trusting
[13:24] Dominic Rahja: well the puzzle is almost unfold
[13:24] ***LF***: and someday there is nothink in your home.. there have been a hopefully a thief
[13:24] Dominic Rahja: how many wal marts are there in colorado with one working there named Mary and close to that city she shopped
[13:25] Dominic Rahja: and that without giving him your ID right away lol
[13:25] ***OE***: cuts down at least the 5% mark
[13:25] Dominic Rahja: in any way
[13:26] Dominic Rahja: its hard to know what your getting in at first impression
[13:26] Dominic Rahja: you gotta know eachother better
[13:26] Dominic Rahja: and that takes time
[13:26] Dominic Rahja: the fakers usually dont have time
[13:26] Dominic Rahja: they want sex here and now
[13:27] Dominic Rahja: if they dont get it right away they find abother
[13:27] Dominic Rahja: another
[13:27] ***OE***: @ comment
[13:27] Dominic Rahja: Im looking at the time
[13:27] Dominic Rahja: yes ***OE***
[13:27] ***JZ***: need to go..... enjoyed this class....very informative...bye all
[13:28] ***OE***: true of the submissive too
[13:28] ***NZ***: bye
[13:28] ***OE***: both side of the fence
[13:30] ***mZ***: yes i'm new to sl and still new on the rl also and learning much
[13:30] Dominic Rahja: yes
[13:30] ***mZ***: but i find to offer my collatr a very impotant decision as i will care for my sub
[13:31] Dominic Rahja: yes it is
[13:31] Dominic Rahja: its a symbol
[13:31] Dominic Rahja: I do find an online collar important too
[13:31] ***mZ***: literally untiil which time she is ready to leave so as far as someone offering a collar to soon watch out
[13:31] Dominic Rahja: but not everyone handles it with the same intentions
[13:32] Dominic Rahja: thank you all for attending class
[13:32] ***mZ***: ty
[13:32] Dominic Rahja: hope it was interesting
[13:32] Dominic Rahja: and safe paths to all
[13:32] ***LF***: Mm i dont find the collar important.... the collar isin your heart
[13:32] ***OE***: i've enjoyed highly, thank You
[13:32] Dominic Rahja: no, but it symbolizes a D/s relationship
[13:32] ***SF***: well put ***LF***
[13:33] Dominic Rahja: yw ***OE***
[13:33] Dominic Rahja: and thx for your input
[13:33] ***OE***: You're most welcomed smiles
[13:33] Dominic Rahja: what I always suggest for new D/s stylers in sl:
[13:34] Dominic Rahja: is to observe a lot
[13:34] Dominic Rahja: surely talk about it
[13:34] Dominic Rahja: and attend classes like this
[13:34] Dominic Rahja: but mostly observe
[13:34] ***NZ***: anyone have actual class notes ...
[13:34] Dominic Rahja: Pirate does that baby
[13:35] ***NZ***: shes not here
[13:35] ***OE***: yes, thank you, ***NZ***.