TPE - Total Power Exchange - 6/15/09

[12:21] Pirate Russell: Let's get this goatrope started or W/we'll never get done
[12:21] Pirate Russell: Ok, please take all cross talk to IM, and all collar, etc commands to the secondary channels!
[12:22] Pirate Russell: Welcome to House of V's College of Kink! As most of y'all know, My name is Pirate Russell, Head Mistress of the College, and today's instructor. I have been in SL for 3 years, a lesbian Domme, the entire time.
[12:22] Pirate Russell: For any that need to leave early, all transcripts can be found at http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com
[12:22] Pirate Russell: With ***CF*** here, guess I should say "ONLY 3 yrs" he he
[12:22] Pirate Russell: Today's subject is "TPE-Total Power Exchange"
[12:22] Pirate Russell: (The terms Dominant and submissive, and "she" for "he" are used because it's easier for me to write! Yet TPE applies to all genders, and all sexual and lifestyle orientations.)
[12:23] Pirate Russell: Total Power Exchange, a.k.a. "consensual slavery," is sometimes a beautiful thing, though it is not for everyone.
[12:23] Pirate Russell: The term was coined in the mid 1990s on a bondage newsgroup, during a debate between two people on the limits of the Master/slave relationship in real life.
[12:23] Pirate Russell: The debate has always continued, even today here in our class, because so many haved asked,
[12:23] Pirate Russell: "How can anyone truly consent to being a slave?"
[12:23] Pirate Russell: and "How can a Dominant hold so much responsibility in his hands for another person?"
[12:24] Pirate Russell: ANY D/s relationship - or even a one-scene interaction - is a "power exchange" in that both the Dominant and submissive parties are agreeing to exchange certain things they want for what the other wants.
[12:24] Pirate Russell: The submissive gives the Dominant power over herself, and the Dominant gives the submissive the amount of control they need and desire.
[12:24] Pirate Russell: A power exchange is always consensual on both parts, generally with on-going negotiations, safe-words, contracts, etc.
[12:24] Pirate Russell: In a Total Power Exchange (TPE), the submissive gives the Dominant her consent ONCE, at the beginning of their interaction - be it a 24/7 relationship, or a one-scene encounter.
[12:24] Pirate Russell: Before she gives that consent, there may be extensive negotiations, and a verbal or written contract.
[12:25] Pirate Russell: SHOULD be negotiations, or at least discussions
[12:25] Pirate Russell: However, after the initial consent, the Dominant has total control over the submisssive, and the submissive may not withdraw their consent.
[12:25] Pirate Russell: This is why TPE is also known as "consensual slavery," "absolute slavery," or "absolute power exchange."
[12:25] Pirate Russell: It looks great in words, but TPE gets very complicated after this!
[12:26] Pirate Russell: There are 24/7 M/s relationships where the people involved agree to a TPE, yet the submissive may use safe-words and seem to have quite a bit of freedom,
[12:26] Pirate Russell: the Dominant trusting her to carry out her duties in addition to working outside the home, pick her own clothing, care for children, take classes, and anything else that fulfills her.
[12:26] Pirate Russell: At the other extreme, there are also 24/7 M/s relationships where the submissive has consented to never be allowed a safe-word (needing to use one usually ends the relationship) ...
[12:26] Pirate Russell: this submissive may be micro-managed by her Dominant down to the tiniest detail, she may not be allowed to work outside the home, her clothing (if any) is chosen for her;
[12:27] Pirate Russell: this generally occurs in households with no children so that the submissive can live 24/7 in what's dubiously called "true" slavery - naked, in chains, not allowed on the furniture without permission, etc. What extremes!
[12:27] Pirate Russell: How can they both be TPE?
[12:27] Pirate Russell: Let's look at that first relationship again ... it sounds like the submissive has a lot of freedom, so how can it be a TPE?
[12:27] Pirate Russell: Well, any relationship is a TPE if the people involved agree to all the rules only ONCE, with the end of the relationship generally occurring after the rules are broken (by either submissive or Dominant!).
[12:28] Pirate Russell: The Dominant in the first relationship has absolute control over certain areas of the submissive's life, and she operates "freely" only within the parameters of his absolute control over the whole of her life.
[12:28] Pirate Russell: This is still "total" in that both parties follow their original contract to the letter, with the Dominant being the only one who can make any changes to the contract as he sees fit (for the health or growth of the submissive and/or the relationship).
[12:28] Pirate Russell: This submissive may petition for change in an emergency, but in the end, it is at the Dominant's sole discretion.
[12:29] Pirate Russell: In the end, it all depends on how much responsibility a Dominant wants to take over another person, and how much control a submissive wants to give her Dominant.
[12:29] Pirate Russell: To truly live in a TPE, the parties involved must absolutely agree on the rules beforehand; the Dominant takes absolute control of the submissive and must keep her healthy, safe and sane;
[12:30] Pirate Russell: and the submissive gives up all of her rights, perhaps even to safe-word or petition for change ... because of this, an intensely huge amount of trust is involved, for both Dominant and submissive.
[12:30] Pirate Russell: Citation: Total Power Exchangeby Sadako Shikami
[12:30] Pirate Russell: Questions, opinions, feelings?
[12:30] ***CF***: I call bullshit.
[12:31] ***DR***: laffs
[12:31] ***CF***: Its not an unstopable, total commitment because it can be still stopped at any time.
[12:31] Pirate Russell: yes, but it can be the end of the relationship, depending on that negotiation at the begining
[12:31] ***CF***: Unless you chain the sub up and do forced restriction - inwhich case the sub can still willingly revenge by getting the ***DR***in legal trouble
[12:32] ***CF***: Sure. But this threat can be used to manipulate the situation.
[12:32] ***DW***: to me inworld its living up to my word
[12:32] Pirate Russell: If that is the case, then has the submissive truly submitted?
[12:33] ***CF***: Exactly
[12:33] ***DR***: @ raises His hand
[12:33] ***CF***: No submission can ever be total and complete.
[12:33] Pirate Russell: True, and yes the legal issues are a-plenty
[12:34] Pirate Russell: Yes, Dom?
[12:34] ***IM***: TPE describes the relationship, as long as it continues it is a TPE relationship. There are lots of ways to end a relationship.
[12:34] ***DR***: what many Dominants forget to think of...
[12:34] ***DR***: is that TPE means a daiy task
[12:34] ***DR***: He or She puts a lot of responsibility on their shouldres
[12:34] ***DR***: and the question is if they are capable of that
[12:35] ***DR***: many times a sub asks for TPE
[12:35] ***DR***: but they dont know what they really ask for
[12:35] ***DR***: and the ***DR***says YES too quickly
[12:35] ***DR***: TPE is something you grow to
[12:35] ***DR***: and not something u agree on from the start
[12:35] ***4C*** nods to that..
[12:35] ***DR***: # thanks
[12:36] Pirate Russell: Definately not a place to start. not until you KNOW each other, almost like 'courting' for a marriage
[12:37] ***DW***: courting seems a good term
[12:38] Pirate Russell: And, My usual disclaimer: D/s is a relationship, and each relationship is as different as the people, and farm animals, that are in it!
[12:39] ***4C***: it can be argued that no submission is complete because there will always be *some* limits.. i dont care what a sub says.. either they have some limits or they are insane..
but..
within those limits i believe the submission can indeed be absolute
[12:39] ***CF***: IMHO its important to empatize that even this sort of an arrangement can be broken. If you empathise too much on how its "solid and final", the sub may get some silly ideas.
[12:39] ***DW*** does whatever her master asks in world
[12:40] Pirate Russell: Yes, it can be broken, absolutely!
[12:40] Pirate Russell: Something as simple as the use of a safe word can break some of these relationships.
[12:41] ***CF***: Even when there is no safe word.
[12:42] Pirate Russell: Yes, if ***IM*** was My RL house slave, she'd need to tell Me she wanted out, and I'd let her out! I'd hope we'd have TALKED a LOT before then, before it got that bad, but yes, ANY relationship can be disolved
[12:42] ***4C***: i know ppl dont like to look at it, but in truth, the sub is the limiting factor, the moment we walk away.. its over.. but i think what is being discussed here is operating *inside* the relationship
[12:42] ***DR***: I laways believe more in intrincic motivation (motivation coming from the inside) instead of contrats and such. If a sub is willing to give her soul, she only will because she feels trusted. And thats better TPE, because it comes from the heart and the ***DR***knows he can handle such because its given to him.
[12:43] ***DW*** nods
[12:43] ***IM***: TPE is similar to marriages a couple centuries ago. The husband's decisions are absolute and a wife is pretty much chattle. There are pressures and traditions and ways out, but as long as they both remain in the relationship it's pretty much TPE.
[12:43] Pirate Russell: Yes, the subs have all the power. ***IM*** can take off the collar, mute Me, ban Me from her lands, and not a damn thing I can do about it.
[12:44] ***IM***: Nothing really stops you from running back to you're parent's house.
[12:44] Pirate Russell: I agree with Dom, too. The collar My treasure wears is a symbol of O/our love, not something I chain her to a tree with at night. Not unlike a wedding ring
[12:45] ***IM*** nods
[12:45] Pirate Russell: she's not even need to log into the LL viewer. All she'd have to do is ask, and I'd unlock it.
[12:46] ***4C***: so in fact.. in every act of submission there is power exchange.. and i believe the focus of TPE is that the power exchange is more constant and not as fluid as with many D/s relationships
[12:47] ***DW***: finds that my power is in obedience
[12:47] ***CF***: So it all comes down to at which point TPE becomes a forced relationship, and when a sub doesnt recognize that they're being forced isnt a good thing.
[12:47] ***4C***: nods at ***DW***
[12:47] Pirate Russell: If it ever does, ***CF***
[12:47] ***cP***: greetings Dom
[12:48] ***NZ***: smiles at Sir ***cP***
[12:48] ***cP***: and classmates....good dat you
[12:48] ***DR***: Domination has a lot to do with charisma, And charisma cant be taught, forced or written down. A sub knows exactly how that feels, and feels fine with that. She feels controlled and protected.
[12:48] ***DW*** nods
[12:48] ***cP***: sorry ***NZ*** you hadn't rezz yet, how are you?
[12:48] Pirate Russell: I won't say that there aren't some out there that would, and do, abuse this type of power. I'm talking about the ideal TPE Relationship
[12:48] ***DR***: hey ***cP***
[12:49] ***IM***: Power seems like the wrong word to girl. It's more of a will alignment. girl aligns her will to Mistress' will, whatever that may be. girl never loses her will or her power, she simply agress to stay aligned to Mistress'
[12:49] ***DR***: nods to ***IM***s wise words
[12:49] ***4C***: thats an excellent way to put it ***IM***
[12:49] ***NZ***: im good ty happpy at my Owners feet
[12:50] ***DW*** wants to please
[12:50] ***DR***: hey didnt the contract say you gotta polish My shoes?
[12:50] ***DR***: hehe
[12:50] ***NZ***: i ll do anything for You Master
[12:50] ***DR***: smiles
[12:51] ***DR*** strokes her pretty hair
[12:51] Pirate Russell: Actually, there are very few things I wouldn't do for My girls!
[12:51] ***DR***: ***cP***, close your voice please My friend
[12:52] ***DW***: would we enter these relationships if we didnt feel that our masters/ mistresses didnt care?
[12:52] ***DW*** would not have
[12:52] ***IM***: It's like following a very charasmatic leader. One will follow him no matter what he says. At some point one may find she made a mistake and leave, though. Or she may agree and follow him forever.
[12:52] ***DR***: hey hey ***RM***
[12:52] ***RM***: hello Sir :)
[12:52] Pirate Russell: Kinda like the leadership seminars I've been to for 100's of years.
[12:53] ***RM***: lol what have i been tp'd into?
[12:53] Pirate Russell: I get ***IM*** to do what I want, becasue *she wants to*!
[12:53] ***IM*** nods
[12:53] Pirate Russell: er because
[12:53] ***DR***: we're doing a word game ***RM***...can you think of an animal starting with Y?
[12:54] ***RM***: yak
[12:54] Pirate Russell: And "Yak" is taken
[12:54] ***RM***: damnit
[12:54] ***DR***: damn she got one
[12:54] ***cP***: Yuhara
[12:54] ***cP***: sorry
[12:54] ***TY***: LOL
[12:54] ***DR***: laffs
[12:54] ***RM***: ok, that was all i had...sorry lol
[12:54] ***CF***: ***RM*** - you've arrived to Naked People Anonymous. Strip down and have a sit.
[12:55] ***RM***: yeti
[12:55] ***RM***: woohoo!!!
[12:55] ***DR***: hehe
[12:55] ***IM***: y'all ... oops did girl say that outloud?
[12:55] Pirate Russell: Other than Yaks, any got anyting on TPE?!
[12:55] ***RM***: oh my...i may not be the one to ask
[12:56] ***DR***: ***TY*** can you throw your type writer outta the window?
[12:56] ***IM***: It it realistic to consider any on-line relationship to be a TPE relationship?
[12:56] Pirate Russell: Come on, ***RM***, hit Me with your best shot!
[12:56] ***TY***: sorry Sir
[12:56] ***DR***: smiles
[12:56] ***IM***: Or would it have to be physical?
[12:56] ***RM***: well, i certainly think an ol relationship can be TPE...would take the right ppl...same as it does in rl
[12:57] Pirate Russell: I think ***IM*** can answer that, what has girl given Me in RL, thru SL?
[12:57] ***IM*** blushes hotly.
[12:58] ***RM***: i think the problem that i've found most is...is the Dom/me truly ready for TPE?
[12:58] Pirate Russell: You wren't here, but, I made this analogy....
[12:59] ***RM***: sorry, was eating mexican food ;)
[12:59] ***DR***: beans!
[12:59] Pirate Russell: Can't find it... one second.....
[12:59] ***RM***: no Sir, no beans!
[12:59] ***DR***: hehe
[12:59] Pirate Russell: [12:36] Pirate Russell: Definately not a place to start. not until you KNOW each other, almost like 'courting' for a marriage
[13:00] ***RM*** nods...only deeper, most marriages aren't as deep as the commitment of the collar, much less TPE
[13:00] Pirate Russell: In that 'courting' that's when you find out if the Dominant is ready for the responsibility
[13:00] ***RM***: well, Sir, yes and no
[13:00] Pirate Russell: That's true, ***RM***
[13:01] ***RM***: sometimes you don't find out til they are slapped in the face with the reality of the situation
[13:01] ***DR***: like: Im the boss , I do waht my wife tells me to
[13:01] ***DR***: haa
[13:01] ***RM***: lmao Dom, Sir
[13:01] Pirate Russell: Those 2 words that save every marriage, "Yes Ma'am!"
[13:01] ***DR***: hahaaa
[13:01] ***TY***: yes dear
[13:01] Pirate Russell: Hubby wears the pants in the family, but I pick them out!
[13:01] Pirate Russell: he he
[13:01] ***TY***: ::giggles::
[13:01] ***RM***: yeah well, that's why my TPE relationship didn't work
[13:02] ***IM***: TPE doesn't suddenly make the sub unable to think, though. Or unable to advise and ask. TPE doesn't mean the Dom/me makes all the decisions, just that the sub's decisions all follow the Dom/me's direction.
[13:02] ***RM***: and i'm sorry Pirate, i don't know you, and i called you sir
[13:02] Pirate Russell is the one standing in front of the class, ***RM***... he he, no worries, happens ALL the time
[13:02] ***RM***: no, definitely not ***IM***
[13:02] ***RM***: i'm sure...does with me too
[13:02] ***NZ*** spanks ***RM***'s ass
[13:03] ***RM*** moans lightly and bites her lip...behave woman!
[13:03] ***NZ***: that was for calling Miss Pirate sir
[13:03] ***RM***: well, ok, here's my thing, i counted on my Master to keep things in control
[13:03] Pirate Russell: If I wanted a robot, I'd buy a blow up doll, ***IM*** here, is so much more than that, she's been My concience, My rock, My sounding board.. etc.
[13:03] Pirate Russell: And a good li'l scripter, too!
[13:03] ***RM***: in all things, i feel that is their responsibility...control
[13:04] ***RM***: sure, listen to the sub, take their wants, needs, ideas under advisement...but the Dom/me needs to keep the control
[13:04] ***DW*** nods at ***RM***
[13:04] ***RM***: once that is lost, well, you can hang it up
[13:04] Pirate Russell: I listen to their wants/needs/fantasies, then do what I want! LOL
[13:04] ***RM***: with a loss of control comes a loss of respect
[13:04] ***IM*** giggles
[13:04] Pirate Russell: Usually incorporating all 3 of those!
[13:05] ***RM***: and when you lose respect for the one who is sposed to be in control, it's very hard to get it back
[13:05] Pirate Russell: AND, ***RM***, from the Domme side, it's hard to earn it back, too!
[13:05] ***RM***: oh very much so!
[13:06] ***DR***: I think it depends a lot on promises made..if a ***DR***tells a sub he's in total control no matter what from the start, then thats hard to keep up after a while
[13:06] ***NZ***: not impossible tho
[13:06] Pirate Russell: And there's respect for the person, and for the position. I've lost both in the past.
[13:06] Pirate Russell: And regained both!
[13:06] Pirate Russell: And it wasn't easy!
[13:06] ***RM***: no it's not
[13:06] ***RM***: well Dom, Sir, it depends on how you look at it really
[13:07] ***DR***: never forget your always dealing with humans, not robots. But it gotta be honest from the start. Only then respect and trust grows
[13:07] ***RM***: yes, definitely
[13:07] ***DR***: everyone is allowed a mistake, but broken promises hurt
[13:07] ***RM***: and by being in control i don't mean the Dom/me is made of stone and never has a bad day, blah blah blah
[13:07] Pirate Russell: Yes, and I'm guilty of that, Dom!
[13:08] ***RM***: i mean, when a problem arises, the Dom/me should be able to tend to it, take care of it and not let it continue to grow
[13:08] ***DR***: true
[13:08] ***RM***: when they don't tend to it, that's when resentment comes in
[13:08] Pirate Russell: It was unaviodable but I broke promises, and O/our relationship is still reeling from that
[13:08] ***XS***: yes but how to tend it?
[13:08] ***RM***: depends on what it is
[13:08] ***XS***: ofcourse
[13:09] ***RM***: ya know sometimes it just comes down to, what subs and children hate hearing the most...BECAUSE I SAID SO
[13:09] Pirate Russell: All I can do is prove My steadiness, and keep future promises to the best of My ability
[13:09] ***DR***: hehe
[13:09] Pirate Russell: or, "I'm the Dominant, that's why!"
[13:09] ***RM***: exactly
[13:09] ***DR***: sometimes it does ***RM***
[13:10] ***CF***: Sometimes it does. Other times it makes you look like an unreasonable bitch.
[13:10] ***DW*** likes knowing whats expected of me
[13:10] Pirate Russell: And, as ***CF*** said earlier, every relationship is breakable, if you're not happy, go find where you are happy!
[13:10] ***RM***: i've never expected perfection from a Dom, they are human just like subs are, mistakes are going to happen
[13:10] ***DR***: like with kids they need an explaination first, but when deaf to it then a ***DR***has to be resolute yes
[13:10] ***RM***: oh hell now i gotta find a quote
[13:10] ***CF***: If you keep saying "because I said so" you'll find a frightened sub who fears taking initiative because they have no idea what you want and why.
[13:10] ***RM***: yes, exactly Dom, Sir
[13:11] ***DW***: you have to be able to communicate
[13:11] ***cP***: nods
[13:11] ***RM***: oh i certainly don't feel because i said so should be used as a first answer lol...but sometimes it needs to be used as a last resort
[13:11] Pirate Russell: Yes, or a child that can't function without that strict structure.
[13:12] ***DW***: structure is what a sub often values, speaking for myself
[13:12] ***cP***: nods
[13:13] ***DW***: its what d/s has given me here in sl
[13:13] ***RM***: ok, to paraphrase a smart man i know...subs give up their power in exchange for being treated and cared for as they desire, if you're not being treated properly, the exchange is not being honored...
[13:13] ***DR***: fear is never a solution, but trust is...when a good parent tells a kid: now its enough, they know its enough. When they dont know their parents because they never explain anything, they nag on
[13:13] Pirate Russell: what I meant was, when they grow up, they can't function in society well, cuz they never got real "why's"
[13:13] ***DR***: ha now I sound like a 5th grade teacher
[13:13] ***RM***: having a collare is not a reason to be abused or neglected...you may have a collar, be owned, whatever, but if it's not making you happy, take your power and leave...it's that simple
[13:14] ***cP***: agree
[13:14] Pirate Russell: Some people treat dogs better than their online, and offline, pets.
[13:14] ***RM*** nods
[13:14] ***DW*** has seen that
[13:14] ***IM***: Of course some subs like that.
[13:14] ***DW***: true
[13:14] ***RM***: well, here's the thing tho, some problems have very simple solutions, but some ppl don't like simple solutions
[13:15] Pirate Russell: Now the other side of that, is... if that's what you're into, or in SL for, then rock on with it!
[13:15] ***RM***: hehe
[13:15] ***cP***: [[whispers]] i love my bandit and princess phoebee
[13:15] ***CF***: ***cP*** - to whisper, there's the little "^" arrow near the Say button... :3
[13:15] ***DR***: love My great dane cept when he pees the floor
[13:15] ***RM***: lmao
[13:16] ***RM***: floods the house?
[13:16] ***DR***: hehe
[13:16] Pirate Russell: I love ***IM*** even when she pees on the floor!
[13:16] ***RM***: LMFAO
[13:16] ***DR***: haa
[13:16] ***IM***: Thank You, Mistress.
[13:16] Pirate Russell: Sometimes BECAUSE she does!
[13:16] Pirate Russell: But that's another class!
[13:16] ***DR***: I potty trained ***NZ***, by peeing in a glass
[13:16] ***IM***: But You still rub girl's nose in it and wack her with a rolled up newspaper.
[13:17] ***DW***: ty all for the thoughts : ))
[13:17] ***DR***: hehe ***IM***
[13:17] Pirate Russell: But she likes that!
[13:17] Pirate Russell: Well, this has run WAY over...
[13:17] ***DR***: hey, but may I concluse there is not sucha thing as TPE?
[13:18] Pirate Russell: No, you can't
[13:18] ***TY***: isn't it easier just to acknowledge that dom/mes and subs have different perspectives and sometimes.. the sub just has to accept the dom/mes perspective because they are the dom/me?
[13:18] ***RM***: hmmmm
[13:18] Pirate Russell: remember that a TPE is defined as one where the power exchange is negotiated up front, what ever is exchanged.... not total power given to the Dominant
[13:19] ***DR***: I think the point is, that TPE is never defined
[13:19] ***IM***: And cannot be re-nogtiated by the sub after that point.
[13:19] ***DR***: every D/s relation is different. but it all comes to a certain level of power exchange
[13:19] Pirate Russell: Can be, but it isn't a right, ***IM***
[13:20] ***DR***: but waht is total?
[13:20] ***DR***: that sounds more like a demagog
[13:20] Pirate Russell: Ok, Dom, I get your point
[13:21] ***DR***: I still believe that control is given because she loves you and believes in you
[13:21] ***IM***: The sub giving up the right to make changes in the relationship. It is all defined by the Dom/me from that point on.
[13:21] ***cP***: Devil's advocate: what if TPE occurs naturally because the bond is there, one would not have to negotiate
[13:21] ***IM*** nods to ***cP***
[13:21] ***TY***: nods ... agreeing with Sir Dom
[13:21] Pirate Russell: How did the bond develop?
[13:22] Pirate Russell: Had to be SOME communication in there
[13:22] ***cP***: well i will take and i for instance
[13:22] ***cP***: ****TY***
[13:23] ***cP***: no she and i aren not toegther at the moment, but our bond is still intact, and we never discussed TPE becuase she trusted and we communicated throughotu
[13:23] ***cP***: *throughtout
[13:23] Pirate Russell: Actually ***cP***, I see that, I bought ***IM*** from one of My other girls, we had a ROCKY start, and now she's My heart! But we bonded over most of the last year+.
[13:25] Pirate Russell: Thank you all for your input, it was a GREAT class, I learn so much from the discussions. I kinda need to wind this up....
[13:25] ***DR***: great class Pirate
[13:25] ***RM***: sorry for the late entrance...thanks for having me
[13:26] Pirate Russell hasn't *had* you yet....
[13:26] ***nC***: Yes great class. can you tell me where the chat log will be located again? I crashed. :P
[13:26] Pirate Russell: Hehe
[13:26] ***RM*** grins and blushes bright red
[13:26] Pirate Russell: http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com
[13:26] ***CF***: oh
[13:26] ***DR***: Tomorrow 12pm My kinky college for those interested
[13:26] ***nC***: Thank you
[13:26] ***cD***: Miss Pirate, thank You for You wonderful class.....
[13:27] ***cP***: ty Pirate
[13:27] ***TY***: ty Mistress Pirate
[13:27] ***DR***: wheres your tipjar Pirate
[13:27] Pirate Russell: My pleasure, and any that feel the need to tip, please go to West of Ireland and donate to Project Children
[13:28] ***NZ*** spanks Pirate's ass
[13:28] ***NZ*** spanks Pirate's ass
[13:28] ***IM*** smiles
[13:28] ***DR***: smiles
[13:28] ***DR***: that in Galway?
[13:28] Pirate Russell: girl, help ihm out...
[13:28] Pirate Russell: or, ***cP*** you can tip Me.... sigh
[13:28] ***cP***: easier that way for me Pirate, my memory is not well
[13:30] Pirate Russell: so log the chat! he he
[13:30] ***DR***: time to go back to the trailer
[13:30] ***DR***: hehe
[13:30] ***DR***: great seeing you ***RM***
[13:30] ***cP***: fare well to all
[13:30] Pirate Russell: He he
[13:30] ***cP***: ***DR***and ***NZ*** tc
[13:30] ***nC***: bye
[13:30] Pirate Russell: thanks again, y'all
[13:31] ***RM***: wonderful to see You too Sir!
[13:31] ***nC***: have a munch to get ready for.
[13:31] ***TY***: bye ***nC***.. good to see you hun
[13:31] ***RM***: bye ***NZ***fie hon...WTF???????
[13:31] Pirate Russell: say 'bye', ***IM***!
[13:31] ***DR***: see you Pirate and careful with that tire
[13:31] ***IM***: Bye A/all.
[13:31] ***TY***: bye ***NZ*** and Sir Dom
[13:31] Pirate Russell: Oh, I already lost it
[13:31] ***DR***: bye ***IM***
[13:31] ***NZ***: WTF WWTF WTF My Gosh LOLOL
[13:31] ***TY***: ::waves bye to all::
[13:31] ***RM***: hehehehehehe
[13:31] ***DR***: haaa
[13:31] ***NZ***: laffs
[13:31] ***DR***: there they go again
[13:31] ***RM***: i swear, one of the funniest days in the history of HOV
[13:31] ***NZ***: Yes haaa