The Gift of Submission - 5/15/09

[2009/5/15 12:15] Pirate Russell: Since it's just U/us, is there any topic girl's interested in, I have several talks I do
[2009/05/15 12:17] ***WW***: well.not really , I came with a clear mind, readt to suck up all info that was shared to be a better sub for Master and other Dominants.
[2009/05/15 12:17] ***WW***: ready*
[2009/05/15 12:17] Pirate Russell: Then My planned topic, "The gift of submission is the ticket
[2009/05/15 12:17] Pirate Russell: But I have to ask... How did you get the upside down type in your profile, is it a font?
[2009/05/15 12:18] ***WW*** thinks that it sounds wonderfull and is willing to learn
[2009/05/15 12:18] ***WW***: lol, I cpyed it from a GF some time ago, she told me it was ok
[2009/05/15 12:18] ***WW***: copyed*
[2009/05/15 12:19] Pirate Russell: COOL! Well, girl gets a DEAL today, I do private tutoring, at 1500L an hr, but this is class so it's FREE!
[2009/05/15 12:19] ***WW*** cheers otloud :))
[2009/05/15 12:19] Pirate Russell:
[2009/05/15 12:20] Pirate Russell: Gonna use My public speaker, obviously the first stuff isn't geared towrds a small crowd
[2009/05/15 12:20] Pirate Russell: Ok, those that will, please turn off any radars, MystiTools, etc.
[2009/05/15 12:20] Pirate Russell: Please take all cross talk to IM, and all collar, etc commands to the secondary channels!
[2009/05/15 12:20] Pirate Russell: Welcome to House of V's College of Kink! As most of y'all know, My name is Pirate Russell, Head Mistress of the College, and today's instructor. I have been in SL for 3 1/2 years, a lesbian Domme, the entire time.
[2009/05/15 12:20] Pirate Russell: here W/we go
[2009/05/15 12:20] Pirate Russell: For any that need to leave early, all transcripts can be found at http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com
[2009/05/15 12:20] Pirate Russell: What Is Submission?
[2009/05/15 12:20] Pirate Russell: Author: Raven Shadowborne © 1997
[2009/05/15 12:20] ***WW*** perk sher small ears
[2009/05/15 12:20] Pirate Russell: Submission: (by definition) the act of granting power to another
[2009/05/15 12:20] Pirate Russell: A rather frightening prospect for most people. To give control of yourself to someone else. The act of submitting is part of the power exchange inherent within a D/s relationship.
[2009/05/15 12:21] Pirate Russell: It is the giving of yourself to another within preset limits, arranged before hand.
[2009/05/15 12:21] Pirate Russell: It is an informed choice and therefor consensual. A person shouldn't just decide to submit to the first dominant they meet.
[2009/05/15 12:21] Pirate Russell: A submissive should take the time to get to know the dominant outside the roles of dominant and submissive, as the person he/she is.
[2009/05/15 12:22] Pirate Russell: With the information gathered during that initial learning of each other process, the submissive can then make an informed decision of whether or not to submit to that dominant.
[2009/05/15 12:22] Pirate Russell: This process should include discussions of expectations, wants, needs and desires.
[2009/05/15 12:22] Pirate Russell: For both the Dominant and the submissive!
[2009/05/15 12:22] Pirate Russell: Each submissive must decide for themselves how far they are willing to go and still stay within the guidelines of safe sane and consensual, thereby not crossing into the realm of abuse.
[2009/05/15 12:22] ***WW*** nods her head
[2009/05/15 12:22] Pirate Russell: The three tenets of D/s must always apply for the submission to be true submission and not abuse.
[2009/05/15 12:23] Pirate Russell: Why a person is submissive varies extensively from person to person. Some are submissive just for a little extra zing in their intimate lives. Others may have a deep psychological need that prevents them from being any other way.
[2009/05/15 12:23] Pirate Russell: There are three main types of submissives There are more concise groupings than these three broad ones, as evidenced by the 9 levels of submission that are widely used and referred to in many books and discussions of D/s.
[2009/05/15 12:23] Pirate Russell: ~A: Sexual Submissive (AKA bottom, sensual submissive)
[2009/05/15 12:23] Pirate Russell: A sexual sub is in D/s for their own sexual gratification. Once their sexual needs are met they are satisfied. They feel no real need to submit any personal control to another.
[2009/05/15 12:24] Pirate Russell: ~B: Psychological Submissive
[2009/05/15 12:24] Pirate Russell: This broad category tends to include those who are in it for the pain and humiliation a D/s relationship can give them.
[2009/05/15 12:24] Pirate Russell: This category tends to include most masochists. Those who have suffered real abuse and are stuck in victim mode, tend to end up in this category.
[2009/05/15 12:24] Pirate Russell: ~C: Natural Submissive (AKA True Submissive)
[2009/05/15 12:24] ***WW*** thinks thats who and what she is
[2009/05/15 12:25] Pirate Russell: The natural sub?
[2009/05/15 12:25] ***WW***: yes Mistress
[2009/05/15 12:25] Pirate Russell: Or the Psyco, or psychological sub? he he
[2009/05/15 12:25] Pirate Russell: she/he is born with a submissive nature. A need to please others. This need and submissive tendency goes beyond sexual gratification.
[2009/05/15 12:25] ***WW***: yes
[2009/05/15 12:25] ***WW***: thats ME
[2009/05/15 12:25] Pirate Russell: It is in their nature to please others, and they will readily give up their control to another with very little or no urging from their dominant.
[2009/05/15 12:26] ***WW***: I love to please and serve A/all
[2009/05/15 12:26] Pirate Russell: he he
[2009/05/15 12:26] Pirate Russell: So does My treasure here, actually
[2009/05/15 12:26] ***WW***: evenin RL Mistress
[2009/05/15 12:26] ***WW***: aw she is adorable
[2009/05/15 12:26] Pirate Russell: Who's to say which category is best?
[2009/05/15 12:26] Pirate Russell: Being submissive is unique and you are an individual. Being submissive comes from the heart. It can not be believably faked, acted or role played.
[2009/05/15 12:26] ***IM*** smiles
[2009/05/15 12:27] ***WW*** does everything for her Master, even when is crosses my own limits
[2009/05/15 12:27] Pirate Russell: If girl likes her now, she should see her naked. he he
[2009/05/15 12:27] ***IM*** groans
[2009/05/15 12:27] Pirate Russell: True submission is a gift of high value. It is my opinion that those in the lifestyle should not judge any one else within the lifestyle for their choices.
[2009/05/15 12:27] ***WW*** and her Master allways talk and try to find out why I do ore dondt like somethings and feeling and situations
[2009/05/15 12:27] Pirate Russell: Who are we to say that a sexual sub is not submissive on a different level? Or that there can only be one type of submissive? Remember, life is full of small variances and innuendoes, so is D/s.
[2009/05/15 12:28] Pirate Russell: I'm going to finish up with the submissive Bill of Rights. Remember that submissives are not doormats they are people, strong enough to give themselves to another person, let someone else tell them, make them, watch them do what they're told!
[2009/05/15 12:28] Pirate Russell: submissive Bill of Rights:
[2009/05/15 12:28] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to be treated with courtesy.
[2009/05/15 12:28] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to be treated with respect.
[2009/05/15 12:29] Pirate Russell: Aways wanna change this to, ~you have the right to be treated with respect, BITCH!
[2009/05/15 12:29] Pirate Russell: LOL
[2009/05/15 12:29] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to express feelings, whether good or bad.
[2009/05/15 12:29] ***WW*** smiles and smirks behind her hands
[2009/05/15 12:29] ***IM*** giggles
[2009/05/15 12:29] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to disagree and express disagreement.
[2009/05/15 12:29] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to stand up for your beliefs, values and morals.
[2009/05/15 12:30] Pirate Russell: ie. limits
[2009/05/15 12:30] Pirate Russell: ~you have a right to retain your self respect and self worth.
[2009/05/15 12:30] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to say No.
[2009/05/15 12:30] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to walk away from an unhealthy situation.
[2009/05/15 12:30] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to be treated as an intelligent, thinking person, entitled to your feelings.
[2009/05/15 12:31] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to make mistakes and ask those mistakes to be forgiven.
[2009/05/15 12:31] Pirate Russell: All transcripts can be found at http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com
[2009/05/15 12:31] Pirate Russell: For future classes check the Search/Events and look for College or Join House of V Friends, or House of V groups, for notices immediately before the classes.
[2009/05/15 12:31] Pirate Russell: Blah, blah blah... he he
[2009/05/15 12:31] Pirate Russell: Ok, given all that, what would girl like to discuss?
[2009/05/15 12:31] ***WW*** smiles up to Mistress.
[2009/05/15 12:35] ***IM***: girl suspects that there are different types of doms justlike different subs. Some my get their fulfillment in humiliation, some in being served.
[2009/05/15 12:36] Pirate Russell kicks the table out ofthe way, giving girl room to kneel properly
[2009/05/15 12:36] ***WW*** is thankfull
[2009/05/15 12:36] Pirate Russell: Oh, it's totally selfish, girl is rather comely
[2009/05/15 12:37] ***WW*** has a TP waiting from her Master. she should join him soon.
[2009/05/15 12:37] ***IM***: Some people seem to just be into BDSM to get some thrills, then go on with their life. Others take as a part of their life instead of a vacation from it.
[2009/05/15 12:37] ***WW***: thats the kind of people I dont like
[2009/05/15 12:37] Pirate Russell: girl may go to Him, W/we can talk again another time
[2009/05/15 12:38] ***IM***: So girl would expect doms to be as different in their needs as subs are.
[2009/05/15 12:38] Pirate Russell: Is girl permitted friend requests?
[2009/05/15 12:38] ***WW*** gets used and abused and than kicked to the curbe............
[2009/05/15 12:38] ***WW*** is Mistress
[2009/05/15 12:38] Pirate Russell: And some submissives LIKE That
[2009/05/15 12:38] ***IM*** nods
[2009/05/15 12:38] ***WW*** smiles and is thankfull for this wonderfull opportunity to discuss issues regarding BDSM
[2009/05/15 12:38] ***IM***: The people who go to places like Hard Alley.
[2009/05/15 12:39] Pirate Russell: Hey, I take My girls there!
[2009/05/15 12:39] Pirate Russell: he he
[2009/05/15 12:39] ***IM*** giggles
[2009/05/15 12:39] ***IM***: But You don't leave *all* of us there.
[2009/05/15 12:39] Pirate Russell: he he
[2009/05/15 12:39] Pirate Russell: No, one's escaped that fate....
[2009/05/15 12:40] Pirate Russell: ....... so far!
[2009/05/15 12:40] ***IM***: girl's sister likes that sort of thing. this one, like you, just wants to serve any way possible.
[2009/05/15 12:40] ***WW*** indeed like's to be readed like that sometimes or in acompany by her Master, so we can talk about stuff and have comfort from Him.
[2009/05/15 12:40] ***WW*** really needs to join Master now
[2009/05/15 12:41] ***WW***: so sorry to leave early
[2009/05/15 12:41] Pirate Russell: girl is released
[2009/05/15 12:41] Pirate Russell: No worries, hun, He comes first!
[2009/05/15 12:41] ***IM***: Nice to meet you, ***WW***.
[2009/05/15 12:41] Pirate Russell: Yes, girl, it is a pleasure
[2009/05/15 12:41] ***WW*** thanks Mistress, gets up from the floor,walks away silently and leave's Mistress and Her girly alone to spend a wonderfull evening together :))
[2009/05/15 12:42] ***WW***: it was nice meeting Y/you 2
[2009/05/15 12:42] Pirate Russell: W/we have spent FEW bad ones in the 13+ months she's been Mine
[2009/05/15 12:43] Pirate Russell: THAT will be a quick transcript
[2009/05/15 12:43] Pirate Russell puts in the 'class dismissed'.