[2009/03/06 9:14] Pirate Russell: Please take all cross talk to IM, and all collar, etc commands to the secondary channels!
[2009/03/06 9:14] Pirate Russell: Welcome to House of V's College of Kink! As most of y'all know, My name is Pirate Russell, Head Mistress of the College, and today's instructor. I have been in SL for 3 years, a lesbian Domme, the entire time.
[2009/03/06 9:14] Pirate Russell: For any that need to leave early, all transcripts can be found at http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com
[2009/03/06 9:14] Pirate Russell: What Is Submission?
[2009/03/06 9:14] MystiTool HUD 1.3.1: Detached.
[2009/03/06 9:15] Pirate Russell: Author: Raven Shadowborne © 1997
[2009/03/06 9:15] Pirate Russell: Submission: (by definition) the act of granting power to another
[2009/03/06 9:15] Pirate Russell: A rather frightening prospect for most people. To give control of yourself to someone else. The act of submitting is part of the power exchange inherent within a D/s relationship.
[2009/03/06 9:15] Pirate Russell: It is the giving of yourself to another within preset limits, arranged before hand.
[2009/03/06 9:15] Pirate Russell: It is an informed choice and therefor consensual. A person shouldn't just decide to submit to the first dominant they meet.
[2009/03/06 9:16] Pirate Russell: A submissive should take the time to get to know the dominant outside the roles of dominant and submissive, as the person he/she is.
[2009/03/06 9:16] Pirate Russell: With the information gathered during that initial learning of each other process, the submissive can then make an informed decision of whether or not to submit to that dominant.
[2009/03/06 9:16] Pirate Russell: This process should include discussions of expectations, wants, needs and desires.
[2009/03/06 9:17] Pirate Russell: Each submissive must decide for themselves how far they are willing to go and still stay within the guidelines of safe sane and consensual, thereby not crossing into the realm of abuse.
[2009/03/06 9:17] Pirate Russell: The three tenets of D/s must always apply for the submission to be true submission and not abuse.
[2009/03/06 9:17] Pirate Russell: Why a person is submissive varies extensively from person to person. Some are submissive just for a little extra zing in their intimate lives. Others may have a deep psychological need that prevents them from being any other way.
[2009/03/06 9:18] Pirate Russell: There are three main types of submissives There are more concise groupings than these three broad ones, as evidenced by the 9 levels of submission that are widely used and referred to in many books and discussions of D/s.
[2009/03/06 9:18] Pirate Russell: ~A: Sexual Submissive (AKA bottom, sensual submissive)
[2009/03/06 9:18] Pirate Russell: A sexual sub is in D/s for their own sexual gratification. Once their sexual needs are met they are satisfied. They feel no real need to submit any personal control to another.
[2009/03/06 9:19] Pirate Russell: ~B: Psychological Submissive
[2009/03/06 9:19] Pirate Russell: This broad category tends to include those who are in it for the pain and humiliation a D/s relationship can give them.
[2009/03/06 9:19] Pirate Russell: This category tends to include most masochists. Those who have suffered real abuse and are stuck in victim mode, tend to end up in this category.
[2009/03/06 9:19] Pirate Russell: ~C: Natural Submissive (AKA True Submissive)
[2009/03/06 9:19] Pirate Russell: she/he is born with a submissive nature. A need to please others. This need and submissive tendency goes beyond sexual gratification.
[2009/03/06 9:19] Pirate Russell: It is in their nature to please others, and they will readily give up their control to another with very little or no urging from their dominant.
[2009/03/06 9:20] Pirate Russell: Who's to say which category is best?
[2009/03/06 9:20] Pirate Russell: Being submissive is unique and you are an individual. Being submissive comes from the heart. It can not be believably faked, acted or role played.
[2009/03/06 9:20] Pirate Russell: True submission is a gift of high value. It is my opinion that those in the lifestyle should not judge any one else within the lifestyle for their choices.
[2009/03/06 9:20] Pirate Russell: Who are we to say that a sexual sub is not submissive on a different level? Or that there can only be one type of submissive? Remember, life is full of small variances and innuendoes, so is D/s.
[2009/03/06 9:20] Pirate Russell: I'm going to finish up with the submissive Bill of Rights. Remember that submissives are not doormats they are people, strong enough to give themselves to another person, let someone else tell them, make them, watch them do what they're told!
[2009/03/06 9:21] Pirate Russell: submissive Bill of Rights:
[2009/03/06 9:21] ***DP*** feels the baby start to flutter.
[2009/03/06 9:21] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to be treated with courtesy.
[2009/03/06 9:21] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to be treated with respect.
[2009/03/06 9:21] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to express feelings, whether good or bad.
[2009/03/06 9:22] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to disagree and express disagreement.
[2009/03/06 9:22] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to stand up for your beliefs, values and morals.
[2009/03/06 9:22] Pirate Russell: ~you have a right to retain your self respect and self worth.
[2009/03/06 9:22] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to say No.
[2009/03/06 9:22] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to walk away from an unhealthy situation.
[2009/03/06 9:23] Pirate Russell: aka Abuse
[2009/03/06 9:23] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to be treated as an intelligent, thinking person, entitled to your feelings.
[2009/03/06 9:23] Pirate Russell: ~you have the right to make mistakes and ask those mistakes to be forgiven.
[2009/03/06 9:23] Pirate Russell: Or punished if that's your kink ;-)
[2009/03/06 9:23] Pirate Russell: All transcripts can be found at http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com
[2009/03/06 9:24] Pirate Russell: College of Kink classes Monday, Tuesday, Thursday & Friday @ 7a, Monday & Thursday 12:30a.
[2009/03/06 9:24] Pirate Russell: That's wrong, Tues and Fri at 9, not 7
[2009/03/06 9:24] Pirate Russell: Y/you could always check the Search/Events and look for College or Join House of V Friends, or House of V groups, for notices immediately before the classes.
[2009/03/06 9:24] Pirate Russell: Questions, Comments???
[2009/03/06 9:25] ***DP*** raising my hand " I do"
[2009/03/06 9:25] ***KC***: Miss someone once told girl that a subbie is in it for themselves and a slave is in it for the Dom/me. Is that correct
[2009/03/06 9:26] ***KC***: sorry
[2009/03/06 9:26] ***KC*** raises her hand
[2009/03/06 9:26] Pirate Russell: Not sure, ***KC***, there are as many types of "submissives" as there are .... well... submissives, each of y'all are in it for your own satisfaction
[2009/03/06 9:26] Pirate Russell: yes, ***DP***?
[2009/03/06 9:26] ***DP***: How do you discuss what the role you will have without making them mad , and if they cross the line how do you correct it?
[2009/03/06 9:27] Pirate Russell: Before you submit to anyone, there should be a discussion. About your limits, your likes, your schedule, your... etc. And the Dominants likes, dislikes, forms of address, etc,
[2009/03/06 9:28] Pirate Russell: It's almost like dating, how do you know if your compatable if you don't talk first? The other way is a short cut to heartache
[2009/03/06 9:28] ***DB*** nods
[2009/03/06 9:29] Pirate Russell: D/s is a relationship. And EVERY relationship takes...... Anyone?
[2009/03/06 9:29] ***KC***: commuinication
[2009/03/06 9:29] ***KC***: communication even
[2009/03/06 9:30] ***MD*** jokes "money?"
[2009/03/06 9:30] Pirate Russell: That's right, ***KC***, EVERY relationship... Vanilla/bdsm, RL/online, personal or Business, all take communication
[2009/03/06 9:30] ***KC*** smiles
[2009/03/06 9:30] ***TK*** Communication, comunication, communication
[2009/03/06 9:30] Pirate Russell: And every relationship is as different ast the people, and farm animals, that are in it!
[2009/03/06 9:31] Pirate Russell: What I consider a slave, ***KC*** might consider a pet, or Ji consider a subby....
[2009/03/06 9:31] ***DP***: Also can a person be a subbie but also have Dom relationship's?
[2009/03/06 9:31] Pirate Russell whispers: That all comes out in the talking that MUST take place!
[2009/03/06 9:31] Pirate Russell: Yes, they're called "Switches" One on My girls has a girl of her own
[2009/03/06 9:32] ***TK***: and patience if just using chat here. no body languege, no voice inflection ask if you don't understand.. dont get cross before you ask and understand
[2009/03/06 9:32] Pirate Russell: Yes, all we have are these lines of plain text
[2009/03/06 9:34] Pirate Russell: After 7 years, I can't read My hubby's mind half the time, and he's right here. ***KC*** is 3000 miles away, I SURE can't read hers!
[2009/03/06 9:35] Pirate Russell: Anyone else?
[2009/03/06 9:35] ***DP***: So is there a standard defination of a slave and a pet?
[2009/03/06 9:35] Pirate Russell: (I even discuss off topic stuff)
[2009/03/06 9:35] ***KC***: would Miss have a good idea of how long onw should wait before being collared
[2009/03/06 9:35] ***KC***: a couple of week or a couple of months
[2009/03/06 9:36] Pirate Russell usually does at least 2 weeks of a "no harm no foul" trial. If things work out after that, a collar is offered.
[2009/03/06 9:36] ***KC***: thank You Miss
[2009/03/06 9:37] Pirate Russell: That hhas served me well, I have 5 active girls, all over a year, one about 3 in various avitars
[2009/03/06 9:37] Pirate Russell: Sorry, that made little sense
[2009/03/06 9:38] Pirate Russell: all over a year in My service, with one over 3yrs....
[2009/03/06 9:38] ***KC*** smiles knowingly
[2009/03/06 9:39] ***TK*** is impressed
[2009/03/06 9:39] Pirate Russell: For those that don't know, I owned ***KC*** for a time, until she found the right Mistress
[2009/03/06 9:39] ***KC*** smiles
[2009/03/06 9:41] Pirate Russell: Anyone... Anything else??
[2009/03/06 9:42] ***DP***: Raises my hand again..
[2009/03/06 9:42] Pirate Russell: Yes ***DP***
[2009/03/06 9:42] ***DP***: How is a pet defferent than a slave?
[2009/03/06 9:43] Pirate Russell: That depends on the usage of words, some, use them interchangibly, My girls shift rolls all the time, keeps from getting bored
[2009/03/06 9:44] Pirate Russell: And i've had some LONG arguments about sub/slave/pet.
[2009/03/06 9:44] Pirate Russell: I consider My girls all 3
[2009/03/06 9:44] Pirate Russell: They're submissive, and have offered themselves to Me, so they're subs
[2009/03/06 9:44] Pirate Russell: I LOVE taking care of them
[2009/03/06 9:44] ***KC*** giggles
[2009/03/06 9:45] ***DP***: So as a pet you'd expect more tenderness?
[2009/03/06 9:45] Pirate Russell: 4 of My core 5 consider themselves slaves, as in no choice, when told to do something, but I dont' treat them that way all the time
[2009/03/06 9:45] Pirate Russell: It's really what you and the other party(ies) decide it means to y'all
[2009/03/06 9:46] Pirate Russell: One of My girls flat refuses to be "slave", and I've made consessions
[2009/03/06 9:48] ***DP***: So pets enjoy more freedoms it seems
[2009/03/06 9:49] Pirate Russell: Maybe gentler care... I give My girls LOTS of freedoms, one's engaged, one has a girlfriend, another has a girl of her own.....
[2009/03/06 9:50] Pirate Russell: And they almost all identify as "slave"
[2009/03/06 9:50] ***KC*** nods
[2009/03/06 9:50] Pirate Russell: One has a club of her own, one runs a mall
[2009/03/06 9:51] ***KC***: girl identifies as all three to Mistress
[2009/03/06 9:52] Pirate Russell: Yeah, but look who trained girl.... he he
[2009/03/06 9:52] ***KC*** smiles
[2009/03/06 9:53] ***KC***: thank You Miss
[2009/03/06 9:53] Pirate Russell beams
[2009/03/06 9:53] Pirate Russell: Well, I think that's gonna do it for today, unless there's any more questions
[2009/03/06 9:54] Pirate Russell: Going once.......
[2009/03/06 9:54] Pirate Russell: ............. going twice..........
[2009/03/06 9:54] ***DP***: I think I'm done
[2009/03/06 9:54] Pirate Russell: ..................................Class Dismissed
[2009/03/06 9:54] Pirate Russell: Well thanks for coming, any inclined to tip please go to West of Ireland and donate to Project Children
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