TPE - Total Power Exchange - 1/13/09

[2009/01/13 7:12] Pirate Russell: Ok, please take all cross talk to IM, and all collar, etc commands to the secondary channels!
[2009/01/13 7:12] Pirate Russell: Welcome to House of V's College of Kink! As most of y'all know, My name is Pirate Russell, Head Mistress of the College, and today's instructor. I have been in SL for 3 years, a lesbian Domme, the entire time.
[2009/01/13 7:12] Pirate Russell: For any that need to leave early, all transcripts can be found at http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com
[2009/01/13 7:13] Pirate Russell: Today's subject is "TPE-Total Power Exchange"
[2009/01/13 7:13] Pirate Russell: (The terms Dominant and submissive, and "she" for "he" are used because it's easier for me to write! Yet TPE applies to all genders, and all sexual and lifestyle orientations.)
[2009/01/13 7:13] Pirate Russell: Total Power Exchange, a.k.a. "consensual slavery," is sometimes a beautiful thing, though it is not for everyone.
[2009/01/13 7:13] Pirate Russell: The term was coined in the mid 1990s on a bondage newsgroup, during a debate between two people on the limits of the Master/slave relationship in real life.
[2009/01/13 7:13] Pirate Russell: The debate has always continued, even today here in our class, because so many haved asked,
[2009/01/13 7:14] Pirate Russell: "How can anyone truly consent to being a slave?"
[2009/01/13 7:14] Pirate Russell: and "How can a Dominant hold so much responsibility in his hands for another person?"
[2009/01/13 7:14] Pirate Russell: ANY D/s relationship - or even a one-scene interaction - is a "power exchange" in that both the Dominant and submissive parties are agreeing to exchange certain things they want for what the other wants.
[2009/01/13 7:14] Pirate Russell: The submissive gives the Dominant power over herself, and the Dominant gives the submissive the amount of control they need and desire.
[2009/01/13 7:14] ***RP***: How would you define....Slave......??
[2009/01/13 7:15] Pirate Russell: Shortly, Roni
[2009/01/13 7:15] ***RP***: OK
[2009/01/13 7:15] Pirate Russell: A power exchange is always consensual on both parts, generally with on-going negotiations, safe-words, contracts, etc.
[2009/01/13 7:15] Pirate Russell: In a Total Power Exchange (TPE), the submissive gives the Dominant her consent ONCE, at the beginning of their interaction - be it a 24/7 relationship, or a one-scene encounter.
[2009/01/13 7:15] Pirate Russell: Before she gives that consent, there may be extensive negotiations, and a verbal or written contract.
[2009/01/13 7:16] Pirate Russell: However, after the initial consent, the Dominant has total control over the submisssive, and the submissive may not withdraw their consent.
[2009/01/13 7:16] Pirate Russell: This is why TPE is also known as "consensual slavery," "absolute slavery," or "absolute power exchange."
[2009/01/13 7:16] Pirate Russell: It looks great in words, but TPE gets very complicated after this!
[2009/01/13 7:17] Pirate Russell: There are 24/7 M/s relationships where the people involved agree to a TPE, yet the submissive may use safe-words and seem to have quite a bit of freedom,
[2009/01/13 7:17] Pirate Russell: the Dominant trusting her to carry out her duties in addition to working outside the home, pick her own clothing, care for children, take classes, and anything else that fulfills her.
[2009/01/13 7:17] Pirate Russell: At the other extreme, there are also 24/7 M/s relationships where the submissive has consented to never be allowed a safe-word (needing to use one usually ends the relationship) ...
[2009/01/13 7:17] Pirate Russell: this submissive may be micro-managed by her Dominant down to the tiniest detail, she may not be allowed to work outside the home, her clothing (if any) is chosen for her;
[2009/01/13 7:18] Pirate Russell: this generally occurs in households with no children so that the submissive can live 24/7 in what's dubiously called "true" slavery - naked, in chains, not allowed on the furniture without permission, etc. What extremes!
[2009/01/13 7:18] Pirate Russell: How can they both be TPE?
[2009/01/13 7:18] Pirate Russell: Let's look at that first relationship again ... it sounds like the submissive has a lot of freedom, so how can it be a TPE?
[2009/01/13 7:18] Pirate Russell: Well, any relationship is a TPE if the people involved agree to all the rules only ONCE, with the end of the relationship generally occurring after the rules are broken (by either submissive or Dominant!).
[2009/01/13 7:19] Pirate Russell: The Dominant in the first relationship has absolute control over certain areas of the submissive's life, and she operates "freely" only within the parameters of his absolute control over the whole of her life.
[2009/01/13 7:19] Pirate Russell: This is still "total" in that both parties follow their original contract to the letter, with the Dominant being the only one who can make any changes to the contract as he sees fit (for the health or growth of the submissive and/or the relationship).
[2009/01/13 7:19] Pirate Russell: This submissive may petition for change in an emergency, but in the end, it is at the Dominant's sole discretion.
[2009/01/13 7:20] Pirate Russell: In the end, it all depends on how much responsibility a Dominant wants to take over another person, and how much control a submissive wants to give her Dominant.
[2009/01/13 7:20] Pirate Russell: To truly live in a TPE, the parties involved must absolutely agree on the rules beforehand; the Dominant takes absolute control of the submissive and must keep her healthy, safe and sane;
[2009/01/13 7:20] Pirate Russell: and the submissive gives up all of her rights, perhaps even to safe-word or petition for change ... because of this, an intensely huge amount of trust is involved, for both Dominant and submissive.
[2009/01/13 7:20] H3 Turbo: i don't here anything
[2009/01/13 7:20] Pirate Russell: it's all in text, H3, have a seat...
[2009/01/13 7:20] Pirate Russell: Citation: Total Power Exchangeby Sadako Shikami
[2009/01/13 7:21] Pirate Russell: Questions, opinions, feelings?
[2009/01/13 7:21] Pirate Russell: All transcripts can be found at http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com
[2009/01/13 7:21] Pirate Russell: For Class times and topics, Y/you would always check the Search/Events and look for College
[2009/01/13 7:21] Pirate Russell: SpeakEasy HUD detaching...
[2009/01/13 7:21] Pirate Russell: Roni, I define a slave as one that gives up more control than a 'pet' or submissive.
[2009/01/13 7:22] ***RP***: You say the contract may be verbal or written....what is the difference....?
[2009/01/13 7:23] Pirate Russell: A written contract is one that's actually on paper, signed. A Verbal Contract is spoken words that are agreed upon by all parties, both are actually enforcible in US Courts
[2009/01/13 7:23] ***SS***: Difference is on how solid the arrangement is. You would not want to go through hours of negotiation on a written contract for a single scene lasting an hour or 2
[2009/01/13 7:24] ***RP***: To be a slave can be lawful.............??????
[2009/01/13 7:24] Pirate Russell: But, ***SS***, if that's what it takes, that's what it takes
[2009/01/13 7:24] Pirate Russell: Actually no, not slave contracts, in the US. I was speaking in generalities
[2009/01/13 7:24] ***RP***: To be supported by the courts....?
[2009/01/13 7:26] ***SS***: In general, written and verbal contracts are something that can be upheld. As far as slave contracts, there have not been any incidents where such has needed to come into a court
[2009/01/13 7:26] Pirate Russell: Slave contracts, no, but oral and written ones, yes
[2009/01/13 7:26] ***IM***: No, the US Courts would not enforce a slavery contract. Such a contract would not have any force of law, it would just be a formal agreement.
[2009/01/13 7:27] ***RP***: Who was is who said that....A verbal agreement wasent worth the paper it was written on........lol
[2009/01/13 7:27] Pirate Russell: Every lawyer ever to pass the Bar, he he
[2009/01/13 7:29] Pirate Russell: The point is not the Contracts, but the negotiation.. it is all done before the 'play' starts
[2009/01/13 7:29] Pirate Russell: The Contracts are usually the extreme end
[2009/01/13 7:30] ***SS***: Aye. It is one form of communication, clearly denineating what each party's expectations are, and if something comes up in the middle of the exchange, it can be looked back upon, to help clarify any issues
[2009/01/13 7:32] Pirate Russell: Any other questions?
[2009/01/13 7:33] ***IM***: Since slavery is illegal in many parts of the world, there is very little legal support of a TPE contract. It would be suplemented by other legal documents, girl would think. Such as a Power of attorney, living will, and so on.
[2009/01/13 7:34] Pirate Russell: The same documents needed for any non-marriage Vanilla or D/s relationship
[2009/01/13 7:34] Pirate Russell: Long-term one,s that is
[2009/01/13 7:35] ***SS***: My girl asks this, as she's having Sl issues
[2009/01/13 7:35] ***SS***: is'nt the contract also another form to reasure dommiance? or the Slaves place. if most of what it is, is a checklist and formal agreement. to agreed upon rules?
[2009/01/13 7:36] Pirate Russell: yes, to state limits, hard and soft, likes, dislikes, expectations, all things that would affect whether the two would even play!
[2009/01/13 7:37] ***IM***: You mentioned that braking the rules by either the sub or Dom/me might end the relationship. But would the Dom/me be under any rules in a TPE relationship? What would they be and how could the be broken?
[2009/01/13 7:38] Pirate Russell: Yes, Hard limits, especially!
[2009/01/13 7:38] Pirate Russell: For instance one of My girls is not into poo-play, in fact none of them are.
[2009/01/13 7:39] Pirate Russell: If I were to violate that hard limit, they would be withing their rights to end the scene, and even the relationshiop
[2009/01/13 7:39] Pirate Russell: er relationship
[2009/01/13 7:41] Pirate Russell: And as EVERYone Dominant or submissive has the rigth to enjoy the relationship, I would hope that they would call a stop to the scene and let Me know where I went wrong...
[2009/01/13 7:42] ***IM***: Once a slave becomes totally dependant on a Dom/me how do they have the power to end the relationship? Psychologicly it would be very difficult, and physically, once all bank accounts are in the Master's name, all assets belong to Him, how can a slave *do* anything?
[2009/01/13 7:43] Pirate Russell: That, falls back on the trust that you MUST have in your Dominant. In RL, it is harder to 'get away' if needed, in SL sumbissives have ALL the power
[2009/01/13 7:44] Pirate Russell: If I were to piss off ibrew, she can take off My collar, mute Me, ban me from her lands and there's not a blanking thing I can do about it!
[2009/01/13 7:45] Pirate Russell: Please ross, have a seat or go, please do not disrupt My class
[2009/01/13 7:45] ***RA***: can i join your group
[2009/01/13 7:46] Pirate Russell: Please do
[2009/01/13 7:47] Pirate Russell: ***RA***, please put the wweapon away, or you will be ejected
[2009/01/13 7:48] ***RA***: can i be hedmistess
[2009/01/13 7:49] Pirate Russell: No ross, this is your last chance, participatation is fine, but silly questions are not, I am serious about My classes
[2009/01/13 7:49] ***RA***: i cant join
[2009/01/13 7:50] Pirate Russell: Are there any more questions about TPE?
[2009/01/13 7:51] ***RA***: hellllllllllllllo
[2009/01/13 7:51] ***IM***: How common is it?
[2009/01/13 7:52] Pirate Russell: Each Marriage can be a TPE, you promise to "Trust, Honor and Obey.... until death do you part"
[2009/01/13 7:52] ***IM*** smiles
[2009/01/13 7:53] Pirate Russell: Remember all a TPE is, is the negotiation up front of all the rules.
[2009/01/13 7:55] Pirate Russell: Last chance......
[2009/01/13 7:55] Pirate Russell: .... Going once.........
[2009/01/13 7:55] Pirate Russell: ....................................going twice..........
[2009/01/13 7:55] Pirate Russell: ........................................................................ GONE! Class dismissed!