TPE-Total Power Exchange - 12/2/08

[2008/12/02 7:12] Pirate Russell: Any that will, please remove radars, Mysti Tools, shields etc
[2008/12/02 7:13] ***SS***: random articles of clothing works too :P
[2008/12/02 7:13] ***TV***: blinks
[2008/12/02 7:13] Pirate Russell: Ok, please take all cross talk to IM, and all collar, etc commands to the secondary channels!
[2008/12/02 7:13] Pirate Russell: Welcome to House of V's College of Kink! As most of y'all know, My name is Pirate Russell, Head Mistress of the College, and today's instructor. I have been in SL for 3 years, a lesbian Domme, the entire time.
[2008/12/02 7:13] Pirate Russell: For any that need to leave early, all transcripts can be found at http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com
[2008/12/02 7:14] ***TD***: please forgive kittens tardiness Miss Pirate
[2008/12/02 7:14] Pirate Russell: Today's subject is "TPE-Total Power Exchange"
[2008/12/02 7:14] Pirate Russell: (The terms Dominant and submissive, and "she" for "he" are used because it's easier for me to write! Yet TPE applies to all genders, and all sexual and lifestyle orientations.)
[2008/12/02 7:14] Pirate Russell: Total Power Exchange, a.k.a. "consensual slavery," is sometimes a beautiful thing, though it is not for everyone.
[2008/12/02 7:14] Pirate Russell: The term was coined in the mid 1990s on a bondage newsgroup, during a debate between two people on the limits of the Master/slave relationship in real life.
[2008/12/02 7:14] Pirate Russell: The debate has always continued, even today here in our class, because so many haved asked,
[2008/12/02 7:15] Pirate Russell: "How can anyone truly consent to being a slave?"
[2008/12/02 7:15] Pirate Russell: and "How can a Dominant hold so much responsibility in his hands for another person?"
[2008/12/02 7:15] Pirate Russell: ANY D/s relationship - or even a one-scene interaction - is a "power exchange" in that both the Dominant and submissive parties are agreeing to exchange certain things they want for what the other wants.
[2008/12/02 7:16] Pirate Russell: The submissive gives the Dominant power over herself, and the Dominant gives the submissive the amount of control they need and desire.
[2008/12/02 7:16] Pirate Russell: A power exchange is always consensual on both parts, generally with on-going negotiations, safe-words, contracts, etc.
[2008/12/02 7:16] Pirate Russell: In a Total Power Exchange (TPE), the submissive gives the Dominant her consent ONCE, at the beginning of their interaction - be it a 24/7 relationship, or a one-scene encounter.
[2008/12/02 7:16] Pirate Russell: Before she gives that consent, there may be extensive negotiations, and a verbal or written contract.
[2008/12/02 7:17] Pirate Russell: However, after the initial consent, the Dominant has total control over the submisssive, and the submissive may not withdraw their consent.
[2008/12/02 7:17] Pirate Russell: This is why TPE is also known as "consensual slavery," "absolute slavery," or "absolute power exchange."
[2008/12/02 7:17] Pirate Russell: It looks great in words, but TPE gets very complicated after this!
[2008/12/02 7:17] Pirate Russell: There are 24/7 M/s relationships where the people involved agree to a TPE, yet the submissive may use safe-words and seem to have quite a bit of freedom,
[2008/12/02 7:18] Pirate Russell: the Dominant trusting her to carry out her duties in addition to working outside the home, pick her own clothing, care for children, take classes, and anything else that fulfills her.
[2008/12/02 7:18] Pirate Russell: At the other extreme, there are also 24/7 M/s relationships where the submissive has consented to never be allowed a safe-word (needing to use one usually ends the relationship) ...
[2008/12/02 7:18] Pirate Russell: this submissive may be micro-managed by her Dominant down to the tiniest detail, she may not be allowed to work outside the home, her clothing (if any) is chosen for her;
[2008/12/02 7:18] Pirate Russell: this generally occurs in households with no children so that the submissive can live 24/7 in what's dubiously called "true" slavery - naked, in chains, not allowed on the furniture without permission, etc. What extremes!
[2008/12/02 7:19] Pirate Russell: How can they both be TPE?
[2008/12/02 7:19] Pirate Russell: Let's look at that first relationship again ... it sounds like the submissive has a lot of freedom, so how can it be a TPE?
[2008/12/02 7:19] Pirate Russell: Well, any relationship is a TPE if the people involved agree to all the rules only ONCE, with the end of the relationship generally occurring after the rules are broken (by either submissive or Dominant!).
[2008/12/02 7:19] Pirate Russell: The Dominant in the first relationship has absolute control over certain areas of the submissive's life, and she operates "freely" only within the parameters of his absolute control over the whole of her life.
[2008/12/02 7:19] Pirate Russell: This is still "total" in that both parties follow their original contract to the letter, with the Dominant being the only one who can make any changes to the contract as he sees fit (for the health or growth of the submissive and/or the relationship).
[2008/12/02 7:20] Pirate Russell: This submissive may petition for change in an emergency, but in the end, it is at the Dominant's sole discretion.
[2008/12/02 7:20] Pirate Russell: In the end, it all depends on how much responsibility a Dominant wants to take over another person, and how much control a submissive wants to give her Dominant.
[2008/12/02 7:20] Pirate Russell: To truly live in a TPE, the parties involved must absolutely agree on the rules beforehand; the Dominant takes absolute control of the submissive and must keep her healthy, safe and sane;
[2008/12/02 7:20] Pirate Russell: and the submissive gives up all of her rights, perhaps even to safe-word or petition for change ... because of this, an intensely huge amount of trust is involved, for both Dominant and submissive.
[2008/12/02 7:20] Pirate Russell: Citation: Total Power Exchangeby Sadako Shikami
[2008/12/02 7:21] Pirate Russell: Questions, opinions, feelings?
[2008/12/02 7:21] Pirate Russell: Or even relevant dirty jokes?
[2008/12/02 7:21] ***JT*** chuckles
[2008/12/02 7:22] ***SS***: Well, as one who's lived on both sides, i can say that a TPE is quite liberating for the slave
[2008/12/02 7:22] ***TD***: what if a Domme changes the relationship by adding another person and it was not agreed upon before hand?
[2008/12/02 7:22] ***TD***: does the TPE change?
[2008/12/02 7:22] Pirate Russell: Yes, ***SS***, I'm no submissive, but I'd LOVE not to have any responsibilities... he he
[2008/12/02 7:23] ***SS***: It depends on the forms they used on setting up the arrangement
[2008/12/02 7:23] Pirate Russell: and yes, the relationship would change. Addition of other,s ***TD***, should be negotiated at the begining
[2008/12/02 7:23] ***TD*** nods and notes it down
[2008/12/02 7:23] ***JT***: so many details...
[2008/12/02 7:23] ***SS***: The one i lived under for 5 years flat out said they were allowed to have me used by others, but that if others broke the contract, it would be as if they did themselves
[2008/12/02 7:24] Pirate Russell has Rules for her girls, one is that they know that they're not My only plaything
[2008/12/02 7:24] Pirate Russell: Wow, your Dominant must have TRUSTED the others, ***SS***!
[2008/12/02 7:24] ***TV***: raises hand.
[2008/12/02 7:25] Pirate Russell: Yes, ***TV***?
[2008/12/02 7:25] ***SS***: Not really. Because of that, they only had me do it a couple times.
[2008/12/02 7:25] ***TV***: Early in my RL BDSM career I had such a "slave" for a while but, honestly, it quickly became boring with such a dorrmat around. Just my poinit of view. I want passion, wit and fire
[2008/12/02 7:25] ***TD***: That is good to know, but there are D's out there that set the rules and end up changing them as they go along... its happended to two of my friends
[2008/12/02 7:25] Pirate Russell: Ahh, good point, ***SS***
[2008/12/02 7:25] ***MS***: Please pardon me, but I am called away.
[2008/12/02 7:25] ***JT***: Bye Meeka
[2008/12/02 7:26] Pirate Russell: Yes, I'm big on the personalities of My girls, that's why I pick them, we can all look cute, and slim!
[2008/12/02 7:26] Pirate Russell: Yes, ***TD***, and they might 'insist' on written contracts from here on out.
[2008/12/02 7:27] Pirate Russell: I try to be consistant, but I'm only, ok barely, human! Especially at 3am when I get up, for work!
[2008/12/02 7:27] ***TV***: Good point Pirate. All our AV's here look like Gods and Goddesses
[2008/12/02 7:27] ***SS***: one sample contract out there that many use is at http://www.bearpair.com/Leather/Contracts/contract11.htm
[2008/12/02 7:27] ***JT***: it is after all the interaction that is the real fun
[2008/12/02 7:27] Pirate Russell: Thank you, ***SS***
[2008/12/02 7:27] ***JT***: the visuals are certainly part of it...but secondary to the interaction
[2008/12/02 7:28] ***JT*** looking at the contract
[2008/12/02 7:28] Pirate Russell: Like in dramas, the conflict is the interesting part. If we're all Fat-Dumb-&-Happy all the time, it'd get boring pretty fast!
[2008/12/02 7:28] ***TD*** giggles
[2008/12/02 7:28] ***TV***: grins
[2008/12/02 7:29] Pirate Russell is, btw, 2 outta 3 on those, figure out which on yer own time!
[2008/12/02 7:29] Pirate Russell: he he
[2008/12/02 7:30] Pirate Russell: As My regulars know, I teach the "C" word EVERY class....
[2008/12/02 7:30] Pirate Russell: ....... Communication!
[2008/12/02 7:30] Pirate Russell: Even in most TPE releationships, a good Dominant will step OOC if there is a problem that needs handling!
[2008/12/02 7:30] ***SS***: ESPECIALLY in TPE
[2008/12/02 7:31] ***TV***: I have difficulty imagining a submissive agreeing to forego her safe word unless there is a long history of trust with this Dominant.
[2008/12/02 7:31] Pirate Russell: Though, as we've heard this AM, not all Dominants are good ones! ;-)
[2008/12/02 7:31] ***TV***: Gets huffy
[2008/12/02 7:31] ***SS***: Some are Domabes
[2008/12/02 7:32] Pirate Russell: So true, or sorry ***TV***, but males looking for easy lays!
[2008/12/02 7:32] ***TV***: sad but true Pirate
[2008/12/02 7:32] ***SS***: There's females that do it too Pirate
[2008/12/02 7:32] ***TV***: I call then the instant crotch divers
[2008/12/02 7:32] Pirate Russell: I call them... ::::::MUTED:::::::
[2008/12/02 7:32] ***JT***: What I find challenging is the idea of growth. THe idea that one comes to a relationship ready to be perfect is almost more than I can imagine.
[2008/12/02 7:32] ***TV***: lol
[2008/12/02 7:33] ***JT***: that is funny....
[2008/12/02 7:33] Pirate Russell: Well, I AM Pefect, but I know what you mean, ***JT***
[2008/12/02 7:33] ***TV***: groans
[2008/12/02 7:33] ***JT***: the negotiations allow us to detail what we know about ourselves and what our wants and needs are...
[2008/12/02 7:33] ***JT***: hahaha
[2008/12/02 7:33] Pirate Russell: no, as katelyn will attest, I'm FAR from it!
[2008/12/02 7:33] ***SS***: It's impossible to be perfect for every person out there
[2008/12/02 7:33] ***JT***: right...
[2008/12/02 7:33] ***JT***: so it comes back to communication...
[2008/12/02 7:33] ***KB***: wait... what?
[2008/12/02 7:33] Pirate Russell looks at ***SS***, Aghast, not for Me!
[2008/12/02 7:33] Pirate Russell: he he
[2008/12/02 7:33] ***JT***: altho you have an agreement, a contract....
[2008/12/02 7:34] ***TV***: I'm thinking how boring it would be to enter a relationship with a "perfect" subbie. The fun is in the training and exploration and moulding of her
[2008/12/02 7:34] ***JT***: you also have to allow for people to change or be changed by a relationship
[2008/12/02 7:34] Pirate Russell: and the punnishment!
[2008/12/02 7:34] ***SS***: ***JT***, I can give you a real example, as I didn't have safe words for my slavery
[2008/12/02 7:34] ***JT*** listens
[2008/12/02 7:34] Pirate Russell: Especially in SL, ***JT***, My RL changes Pirate ALL THE TIME!
[2008/12/02 7:35] ***JT***: that is certainly been my experience...
[2008/12/02 7:35] ***JT***: so what? you talk about it?
[2008/12/02 7:35] ***JT***: and a Dom/me must be open to that sort of thing?
[2008/12/02 7:35] Pirate Russell: And Pirate has changed Me, too! but that's another class... he he
[2008/12/02 7:35] ***JT*** nods....
[2008/12/02 7:35] ***SS***: One scene we did, I accidentally shifted and popped my shoulder out of its socket. EVEN THOUGH there was a no safeword clause in my contract, I screamed it over and over, and they went ahead and accepted it
[2008/12/02 7:35] ***JT***: eeek!
[2008/12/02 7:36] ***TD***: ouchie!
[2008/12/02 7:36] ***JT***: accepted it? as in got you treatment?
[2008/12/02 7:36] ***SS***: As in play stopped immediately and they got me taken care of
[2008/12/02 7:36] ***JT***: kk
[2008/12/02 7:36] ***JT***: got it
[2008/12/02 7:36] Pirate Russell: I am open to all sorts of 'suggestions', and because I'm secure in My Dominance, My girls' gift of submission, I don't see it as topping from the bottom.
[2008/12/02 7:36] ***TV***: Play is one thing -- medical emergency quite another
[2008/12/02 7:37] ***SS***: And a good Dominant won't want a meat or prim puppet
[2008/12/02 7:37] Pirate Russell: Yes, that's why checking on a sub is IMPORTANT, if using ropes, they can shift, causing loss of circulation, even strangulation!
[2008/12/02 7:37] ***JT***: so it comes back to conflict
[2008/12/02 7:37] ***JT***: and communication
[2008/12/02 7:37] Pirate Russell: Absolutely, ***JT***
[2008/12/02 7:38] ***SS***: I don't even see it as conflict. If one of my girls needs something, they come and ask for it
[2008/12/02 7:38] ***JT*** nods
[2008/12/02 7:38] ***JT***: so the contract allows for establishment of a baseline
[2008/12/02 7:39] ***JT***: but there is still room for shifts and growth...
[2008/12/02 7:39] Pirate Russell: Same here, from a hug, to a whipping, to a quiet night in bed, I can take requests... and usually act on them
[2008/12/02 7:39] Pirate Russell: Yes, ***JT***, like in EVERY relationship, Vanilla or BDSM
[2008/12/02 7:39] ***SS***: Aye, and in that example, there IS a clause for what is called "Slave's Veto" on commands
[2008/12/02 7:39] Pirate Russell: I have something similar in SL, it's Part of My RULE 1, RL comes first!
[2008/12/02 7:40] Pirate Russell: Rule 1b) Since this is a "game", if you're not having fun, tell Me, we'll do something else, or we'll play separately for a while, or for good. But please TELL ME!
[2008/12/02 7:40] ***SS***: Dammit, i always forget to buy one of those before class
[2008/12/02 7:41] ***SS*** listens to the crickets
[2008/12/02 7:42] ***JT***: buy what?
[2008/12/02 7:42] ***TD***: fishies?
[2008/12/02 7:42] ***SS***: A real life
[2008/12/02 7:42] ***JT***: hahaha
[2008/12/02 7:42] ***MA***: hehe
[2008/12/02 7:42] ***JT***: tell me where you shop for THAT!
[2008/12/02 7:42] ***TD*** smirks
[2008/12/02 7:42] ***TS***: Can I come too?
[2008/12/02 7:43] ***JT***: what a great christamas give...
[2008/12/02 7:43] ***TD***: I cook chicken soup in my RL its soothing to my soul *giggles*
[2008/12/02 7:43] ***JT***: packed in a lovely bag with a big bow...your new RL!
[2008/12/02 7:43] Pirate Russell: This IS real life, just last night, I actually said to My Hubby..... "Me will cook the pork chops in a second"
[2008/12/02 7:43] ***JT*** laughs
[2008/12/02 7:43] ***SS***: Well, I'm sure you can come with a vibrator easier than with a store
[2008/12/02 7:44] Pirate Russell: LOL
[2008/12/02 7:44] ***JT*** nods
[2008/12/02 7:44] ***TD***: hahaha
[2008/12/02 7:44] Pirate Russell: Meanwhile, back at TPE.. he he
[2008/12/02 7:45] ***SS***: Aye. Dominants should not see TPE as "I get whatever the hell i want when i want it"
[2008/12/02 7:45] ***SS***: It is WORK.
[2008/12/02 7:45] Pirate Russell: True, all TPE means is that it's all decided atthe begining. Not that he has all the power over the sub
[2008/12/02 7:46] ***JT*** nods, listening
[2008/12/02 7:46] Pirate Russell: Yes, I get weary sometimes, with 4 active girls, and a few subby friends. it IS work!
[2008/12/02 7:46] ***SS***: Anyone help deal with little children?
[2008/12/02 7:46] ***TV***: Tough job Pirate but someone has to do it
[2008/12/02 7:46] Pirate Russell: VERY true on both points, ***TV***!
[2008/12/02 7:47] ***SS***: Either raising them, watching them for relatives, babysitting, even working a daycare?
[2008/12/02 7:47] Pirate Russell: My baby is 13, but remembers those days, ***SS***
[2008/12/02 7:48] ***SS***: It's along a similar path for a Dominant taking care of their slave. Watch over, protect, guide, teach
[2008/12/02 7:48] ***JT***: that is a good analogy
[2008/12/02 7:48] Pirate Russell: AND.... unfortunately, often watch them go off on their own!
[2008/12/02 7:48] ***JT***: and like a parent, you learn from both the experience and the one that you care for
[2008/12/02 7:48] ***MA*** raises hand
[2008/12/02 7:49] Pirate Russell: Yes, ***MA***?
[2008/12/02 7:49] ***MA***: one of the most important things i have learned about the d/s relationship
[2008/12/02 7:49] ***MA***: is that the Dom/Domme is a person
[2008/12/02 7:50] ***MA***: with hurts, needs, wants and weaknesses
[2008/12/02 7:50] ***JT*** smiles
[2008/12/02 7:50] ***MA***: i see part of my job as a sub
[2008/12/02 7:50] ***MA***: to support Him
[2008/12/02 7:50] Pirate Russell: That We are, and We make errors, ALL the time!
[2008/12/02 7:50] ***MA***: give him a kiss, a touch, a massage when he is weary
[2008/12/02 7:50] ***MA***: i see being a sub as work too
[2008/12/02 7:51] Pirate Russell: We don't intentionally hurt, whips notwithstanding, Our subs, most of Us do our best!
[2008/12/02 7:51] ***MA***: enjoyable work, but work
[2008/12/02 7:51] ***JT*** nods
[2008/12/02 7:51] Pirate Russell: Again there are those "Dom-abes"
[2008/12/02 7:51] ***JT***: good point ***MA***
[2008/12/02 7:51] ***JT***: you don't get the balance of the relationship
[2008/12/02 7:51] ***MA***: we both have responsibilities in this relationship
[2008/12/02 7:52] ***JT***: correction, i meant "who" for "you " inthat lst remark
[2008/12/02 7:52] ***MA*** smiles
[2008/12/02 7:52] ***SS***: And that's the part one has to understand. We ENJOY our roles and our duties, no matter if you are the slave or the Dominant
[2008/12/02 7:53] ***MA*** nods
[2008/12/02 7:53] ***JT***: yes....that makes sense
[2008/12/02 7:53] ***JT***: there is a certain pleasure in the fact that there are defined roles
[2008/12/02 7:54] Pirate Russell: Yes, like the Military, there are Officers and soldiers. Soldiers take orders, and take care of the Officers.
[2008/12/02 7:54] ***TV***: Pardon A/all. Tant has a RL problem at the office. Later
[2008/12/02 7:54] ***JT***: hehehe
[2008/12/02 7:54] ***JT***: and soldiers grumble....inevitably
[2008/12/02 7:54] Pirate Russell: Ciao for now,
[2008/12/02 7:54] Pirate Russell: As do some submissives
[2008/12/02 7:56] ***JT***: and Officers struggle to lead...
[2008/12/02 7:56] ***JT***: alwys room for growth
[2008/12/02 7:56] ***MA*** is still thinking about the 'defined roles' idea
[2008/12/02 7:56] ***JT***: by defined I also mean permission
[2008/12/02 7:57] Pirate Russell: Well, ***MA***, those roles are defined during the "C", at that negotiation stage!
[2008/12/02 7:57] ***MA***: yes
[2008/12/02 7:57] ***JT***: because we do grant permission for play here that may feel dangerous to go near without permission
[2008/12/02 7:57] ***MA***: i was thinking about that on a personal level
[2008/12/02 7:57] ***MA***: my daughter (rl) is in sl as well
[2008/12/02 7:57] Pirate Russell: Ahhh
[2008/12/02 7:58] ***MA***: and is apalled that i am a submissive
[2008/12/02 7:58] Pirate Russell takes it she's not a subby.... he he
[2008/12/02 7:58] ***MA***: she doesn't understand how i can go from a liberated, strong person in rl to a sub in sl
[2008/12/02 7:58] ***MA***: no, she isn't definately!!!
[2008/12/02 7:59] ***JT***: it can be difficult to understand from the outside
[2008/12/02 7:59] ***TD***: you explain it is Second life
[2008/12/02 7:59] ***SS***: ***MA***, you can describe subspace to her, and that can help frame it
[2008/12/02 7:59] Pirate Russell: What I have learned from My girls, is that I'm not strong enough to submit to another, the way they submit to Me
[2008/12/02 8:00] ***JT***: hmmm....
[2008/12/02 8:00] ***MA***: i worked hard to instill independance and strength in her
[2008/12/02 8:00] Pirate Russell: The stronges folk I know, are submissives, it takes a lot to give YOURSELF to another!
[2008/12/02 8:00] ***MA***: she doesn't get that i want to give that up for myself in sl
[2008/12/02 8:00] ***JT***: but you have the task of caring and teaching, which is beyond others
[2008/12/02 8:00] ***TD*** agrees with Miss Pirate
[2008/12/02 8:00] ***JT*** nods
[2008/12/02 8:00] ***MA*** nods at Miss Pirate
[2008/12/02 8:00] Pirate Russell: Frankly, I'm not strong enough!
[2008/12/02 8:00] ***TD***: Submission is the greatest gift one can give to another
[2008/12/02 8:01] ***TD***: well other then fishies *looks at Miss ***SS****
[2008/12/02 8:01] Pirate Russell giggles
[2008/12/02 8:01] ***SS***: I'm working on getting the kitty treats set up
[2008/12/02 8:01] Pirate Russell: He he
[2008/12/02 8:01] ***SS***: I just need to give my girl a break
[2008/12/02 8:02] ***MA***: being a sub is a comfortable place for me in sl
[2008/12/02 8:02] ***MA***: with the right Master
[2008/12/02 8:02] Pirate Russell can lend you one if you need a loaner, ***SS***
[2008/12/02 8:03] ***JT***: I feel very muchthe same way ***MA***
[2008/12/02 8:03] ***JT***: I am a busy pro in RL
[2008/12/02 8:03] ***SS***: ***MA***, try explaining that second life allows us to take the road we did not travel in real life, erasing and easing regrets we may have
[2008/12/02 8:03] ***JT***: but in here I am on my knees for my master...
[2008/12/02 8:03] ***JT***: and I can feel how much support he draws from that gift
[2008/12/02 8:03] Pirate Russell: Yes, I am NOT a Domme or a Lesbian in RL, Hubby'd beat My ass! he he
[2008/12/02 8:04] Pirate Russell: But I ENJOY it here, get to flex those 'muscles', as it were
[2008/12/02 8:04] ***JT***: sure, try things out and experience them....
[2008/12/02 8:04] ***JT***: without the risk to your RL
[2008/12/02 8:04] Pirate Russell: Yep, who can do this in RL???
[2008/12/02 8:04] ***JT*** smiles
[2008/12/02 8:04] ***TD***: /giggles grining with a purr
[2008/12/02 8:05] Pirate Russell: Ok, who looked up My skirt?!
[2008/12/02 8:05] Pirate Russell: LOL
[2008/12/02 8:05] ***JT***: RL would be so complicated
[2008/12/02 8:05] ***JT*** laughs
[2008/12/02 8:05] ***SS***: I can, but takes a lot of prep work, and an electromagnet
[2008/12/02 8:05] ***JT*** cracks up
[2008/12/02 8:05] Pirate Russell: Ok, ***SS*** is really Chris Angel, FINE!
[2008/12/02 8:05] Pirate Russell: LOL
[2008/12/02 8:05] ***SS***: LOL
[2008/12/02 8:06] ***SS***: And Pirate, I think that is the wrong question to ask. The right one is "Who DIDN'T look up your skirt
[2008/12/02 8:06] ***MA*** giggles
[2008/12/02 8:06] ***JT*** giggles
[2008/12/02 8:06] Pirate Russell: Anyone miss it?
[2008/12/02 8:06] ***JT*** looks around the room aimlessly and whistles
[2008/12/02 8:06] ***MA***: i admit Miss Pirate, i didn't
[2008/12/02 8:06] Vahalia Triellis giggles.
[2008/12/02 8:06] ***MA*** sneaks a peek!
[2008/12/02 8:07] Pirate Russell HAS to work on that "Shy thing"!
[2008/12/02 8:07] ***SS*** giggles
[2008/12/02 8:07] ***JT***: Your earlier comment Pirate, to ***MA*** about the role of SL....
[2008/12/02 8:07] Pirate Russell: Yes, ***JT***?
[2008/12/02 8:07] ***JT***: this is such a tough thing to explain to anyone
[2008/12/02 8:07] ***JT***: no one that has never been here can imagine it
[2008/12/02 8:07] ***JT***: i try to talk to people about it in RL and i can feel their concerns for my sanity
[2008/12/02 8:08] ***JT***: so I have learned that such conversations are not wise
[2008/12/02 8:08] Pirate Russell: Well, it's like that show, Quantum Leap. We get to walk a mile in ANYone's Moccasins that W/we choose
[2008/12/02 8:08] ***JT***: oh yes!
[2008/12/02 8:08] ***JT***: the capacity for empathy here...
[2008/12/02 8:08] ***JT***: really remarkable
[2008/12/02 8:09] ***SS***: I find for me, Sl is a digital reflection of my meat self, but the better parts. for instance, here I can run, dance, fly a plane, walk sexily
[2008/12/02 8:09] ***JT***: so your best self is free to be dominant in here....
[2008/12/02 8:09] ***TD*** agrees with ***SS***
[2008/12/02 8:10] Pirate Russell: Oh, there's a lot of ME in Pirate, and a lot of she in me!
[2008/12/02 8:10] ***SS***: Well, I am Dominant IRL too.
[2008/12/02 8:11] ***TD***: SL is a place where we can walk in the life we wished we could live, it is not always cat treats and mousey treats and being a switchie I am the same in RL
[2008/12/02 8:11] ***JT***: wb ***TS***
[2008/12/02 8:11] Pirate Russell: Ditto
[2008/12/02 8:11] ***TS***: Thank you
[2008/12/02 8:12] Pirate Russell: I'm amazed that I've never crashed, 2x a week, since July I've been teaching

*****Irrelivant computer geek talk*****

[2008/12/02 8:19] Pirate Russell: Class Dismissed, we're wayyyyyy off topic, anyway
[2008/12/02 8:19] ***JT***: hehehe
[2008/12/02 8:19] ***TS***: oh, grrrrr!
[2008/12/02 8:19] ***JT***: Good Day all!
[2008/12/02 8:19] ***TS***: Thank you Pirate, wonderful class
[2008/12/02 8:19] ***TD***: Thank you Miss Pirate I love these classes
[2008/12/02 8:19] Pirate Russell: My pleasure, and in the next few days the transcript will be at, http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com