[2008/10/21 7:04] Pirate Russell: For those that must leave early this, and all transcripts will be posted at http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com .
[2008/10/21 7:04] Pirate Russell: Welcome to House of V's College of Kink! As most of y'all know, My name is Pirate Russell, Head Mistress of the College, and today's instructor. I have been in SL for nearly 3 years, a lesbian Domme, the entire time.
[2008/10/21 7:05] Pirate Russell: Our topic today, "D/s 101 submisive Rights and Dominant Responsibilities".
[2008/10/21 7:05] Pirate Russell: This topic is VERY near and dear to My heart. I have seen submissives mistreated by their dominants and either left the SL Lifestyle or just spent way too much time not enjoying themselves.
[2008/10/21 7:05] Pirate Russell: My philosophy is that W/we are all her to enjoy ourselves. Some gain that enjoyment by being whipped, some by whipping. Some enjoy being humiliated, some enjoy humiliating them.
[2008/10/21 7:05] Pirate Russell: W/we each have our own fun, but it's just that. fun. W/we are here to enjoy our time or we'd be off doing other things in other games, or
[2008/10/21 7:05] Pirate Russell: Further, submission is a GIFT. The most special gift that can be given.
[2008/10/21 7:06] Pirate Russell: subsmissives give themselves. There is no greater honour, or honor for those that speak American, than to be given the gift of submission.
[2008/10/21 7:06] Pirate Russell: I have found a very good list of submissive Rights
[2008/10/21 7:06] Pirate Russell: Here are some of the basic submissive rights:
[2008/10/21 7:06] Pirate Russell: 1) You have the right to be respected.
[2008/10/21 7:06] Pirate Russell: No one should be ordering you around or expecting you to answer questions or doing things you're not comfortable with.
[2008/10/21 7:06] Pirate Russell: 2) You have the right to your freedom.
[2008/10/21 7:06] Pirate Russell: Just because someone is interested in you, they can't take your freedom from you.
[2008/10/21 7:07] Pirate Russell: Don't let anyone try to intimidate you; you belong to no one until you offer yourself to them. They can't restrict you in any way until you allow them to.
[2008/10/21 7:07] Pirate Russell: 3) You have a right to be satisfied--emotionally and physically.
[2008/10/21 7:07] Pirate Russell: This is a relationship, y'all. While the power control aspect does add a few kinks (pun intended) into the mix, you don't get extra points for making yourself into a sacrificial lamb for someone else's amusement and/or satisfaction.
[2008/10/21 7:07] Pirate Russell: Get what you need or find someone else that will give it to you.
[2008/10/21 7:07] Pirate Russell: 4) You have a right to take your time and not rush into anything ever.
[2008/10/21 7:07] Pirate Russell: Being chained in the doorway, naked and vulnerable isn't really a good time to find out your Dominant wants to explore their sadistic side a little more.
[2008/10/21 7:07] Pirate Russell: Talk,
[2008/10/21 7:08] Pirate Russell: talk,
[2008/10/21 7:08] Pirate Russell: talk,
[2008/10/21 7:08] Pirate Russell: and talk some more. If you have concerns that aren't addressed, move on. It's not worth the risk.
[2008/10/21 7:08] Pirate Russell: 5) You DON'T have a right to play "needy and desperate".
[2008/10/21 7:08] Pirate Russell: Who in the world wants to own someone that doesn't have a backbone and will submit to anyone for any reason? BIG satisfaction potential there!
[2008/10/21 7:08] Pirate Russell: 6) You have a right to respect yourself.
[2008/10/21 7:08] Pirate Russell: This means holding out for the relationship YOU want and not being talked into the relationship someone else wants with you.
[2008/10/21 7:08] Pirate Russell: You're submissive, not stupid and, if you're not going to be happy, you're only wasting everyone's time.
[2008/10/21 7:08] Pirate Russell: Just any collar isn't worth your peace of mind. Honest. It *HAS* to be the right one.
[2008/10/21 7:09] Pirate Russell: 7) You have the right to enjoy this always.
[2008/10/21 7:09] Pirate Russell: If you find you're in a relationship that's bringing more tears, confusion and unreasonable or uncomfortable demands than smiles and "warm fuzzies",
[2008/10/21 7:09] Pirate Russell: take some time to pull back and see what's going on or talk with someone else about it,either your Dominant or a friend who knows the lifestyle.
[2008/10/21 7:09] Pirate Russell: The same basics apply here as anywhere; something's wrong if you're dreading logging into SL, or hiding from people.
[2008/10/21 7:09] Pirate Russell: You deserve more than that. Have the courage to find it. You'll be glad you did!"
[2008/10/21 7:09] Pirate Russell: Most of all I want to reiterate, you have the RIGHT to enjoy yourself. and submissives have the RIGHT to wait for the right Dominant.
[2008/10/21 7:09] Pirate Russell: Ok... now the other side of the coin, so to speak.
[2008/10/21 7:10] Pirate Russell: The following is taken Dominant's Creed
[2008/10/21 7:10] Pirate Russell: Above all else a Dom/me cherishes Their submissive, in the knowledge that the gift the submissive gives Them is the greatest gift of all.
[2008/10/21 7:10] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me is in control of Themselves first and foremost, so that They may control others.
[2008/10/21 7:10] Pirate Russell: In times of trouble, a Dom/me will leave the roles behind, to be a supportive friend and partner, never forgetting that this is still a loving relationship between two caring individuals.
[2008/10/21 7:10] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me is quick to understand the differences between fantasy and reality.
[2008/10/21 7:10] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me would never asks a submissive to put Them before their career, or family, or Rreal Life, just to satisfy Their own pleasure.
[2008/10/21 7:11] Pirate Russell: To win a submissive's mind, body, spirit, soul, and love, a Dom/me knows They must first win their trust.
[2008/10/21 7:11] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me must always show them that Their guidance and tutoring is knowledgeable and deserving of their attention, that this is a person they can learn from, and that they can trust Their direction.
[2008/10/21 7:11] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me proves to their submissive that They are someone they can lean on, and depend on.
[2008/10/21 7:11] Pirate Russell: When it comes time to teach Their submissive their lessons of obedience, They are a strong and unyielding professor.
[2008/10/21 7:11] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me will accept no flaw. Nothing less than perfection from Their submissive.
[2008/10/21 7:11] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me is always open to communication and discussion; always ready to hear Their submissive's wants and needs.
[2008/10/21 7:12] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me is patient; taking time to learn Their submissive's limits, and knowing that as their trust of Them grows, so will they.
[2008/10/21 7:12] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me never has to demand ritual behavior from Their submissive. Their submissive responds to Them out of the want of pleasing Them. Compliance comes from the wanting to please, not the fear of punishment.
[2008/10/21 7:12] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me understands the fragile nature of mind and body and never violates the trust given to Them.
[2008/10/21 7:12] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me is secure enough to laugh at Themselves and the absurdities of life. Open minded enough to learn new things. Strong enough to grow.
[2008/10/21 7:12] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me's tools are mind, body, spirit, soul, respect and love
[2008/10/21 7:13] Pirate Russell: A Dom/me understands that E/each partner gains most from pleasuring the O/other.
[2008/10/21 7:13] Pirate Russell: And B/both of T/them know that love and trust are the only bindings that truly hold.
[2008/10/21 7:13] Pirate Russell: For those that must leave this, and all transcripts will be posted at http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com
[2008/10/21 7:13] Pirate Russell: Quesitons and comments on these Rights & Responsibilities?
[2008/10/21 7:13] Pirate Russell: SpeakEasy HUD detaching...
[2008/10/21 7:14] ***PW***: most of what you say Pirate is common sense but just needs to be reiterated
[2008/10/21 7:14] ***PW***: and thats a good thing
[2008/10/21 7:14] ***RJ***: it is common sense - for people who have thought it through
[2008/10/21 7:14] ***PW***: thats right
[2008/10/21 7:14] ***RJ***: not everyone likes to think though ;)
[2008/10/21 7:15] ***PW***: but as part of the relationship the discussion is learning process
[2008/10/21 7:15] Pirate Russell: Well, it's also that I take this seriously, some Dominants, I'd even say MOST are not here for the RELATIONSHIP
[2008/10/21 7:15] Pirate Russell: They're here to swing a belt, and get some easy cyber!
[2008/10/21 7:15] ***PW***: i agree
[2008/10/21 7:15] ***XD***: yeah
[2008/10/21 7:16] Pirate Russell: Ok, now ALL subbies, strip!
[2008/10/21 7:16] Pirate Russell: Just kidding
[2008/10/21 7:16] ***XD***: hehehe
[2008/10/21 7:16] ***IM*** giggles
[2008/10/21 7:16] ***PW***: as a Master i am no belt swinger but i can see your point
[2008/10/21 7:16] ***KC***: lol
[2008/10/21 7:16] ***PW***: and yes strip now - lol
[2008/10/21 7:16] ***IM*** laughs
[2008/10/21 7:16] ***RJ*** blushes
[2008/10/21 7:16] ***KC*** giggles
[2008/10/21 7:17] Pirate Russell: Go sit in HoV, or ANY D/s sim or club, and you'll see it all day long
[2008/10/21 7:17] ***PW***: smiles
[2008/10/21 7:17] ***PW***: thats why i tend not to spend too much time in places similar to the House
[2008/10/21 7:18] Pirate Russell: Now I'm not above the occasional One-Dungeon-Stand, but that is negotiated at the begining, that this is just a play, not setting up for a relationship
[2008/10/21 7:18] ***RJ***: for good places, it's about the people there more than anything else ;)
[2008/10/21 7:18] ***RJ***: the one knight stand? ;)
[2008/10/21 7:18] ***PW***: yeah - ill give you that
[2008/10/21 7:18] Pirate Russell looks down... well, not really, but..... he he
[2008/10/21 7:18] ***PW***: the people that is
[2008/10/21 7:20] Pirate Russell: Any relationship SHOULD be negotiated at the begining, RL or SL... what you want, what they want.... what you'll do, or won't.... etc. D/s RELATIONSHIPS are no different, but maybe more important, as there's the possibility of physical pain involved too
[2008/10/21 7:20] Suma Janus: I have to leave - sub in distress :-) ... I will check the blog - bye all
[2008/10/21 7:20] ***PW***: bye
[2008/10/21 7:20] ***XD***: bye Suma
[2008/10/21 7:20] ***RJ***: take care!
[2008/10/21 7:20] Pirate Russell: By Suma, GL!
[2008/10/21 7:21] ***PW***: and like a normal relationship its a two way growth process as you described Pirate
[2008/10/21 7:21] Pirate Russell: ~~Sorry, but GOOD song in the feed, for this topic! LOL
[2008/10/21 7:21] ***RJ***: giggles - just turned it on myself, and was thinking the same thing
[2008/10/21 7:21] Pirate Russell: Sad song, but goooood communication!
[2008/10/21 7:21] ***PW***: lol - i am in work and cant play it
[2008/10/21 7:21] ***RJ***: (and singing along)
[2008/10/21 7:22] Pirate Russell is too! LOL
[2008/10/21 7:22] Pirate Russell: Anyway..... he he
[2008/10/21 7:22] ***RJ***: meatloaf - two out of three aint bad
[2008/10/21 7:22] ***PW***: lol
[2008/10/21 7:22] ***PW***: anyway
[2008/10/21 7:23] ***PW***: whats a sub stance
[2008/10/21 7:23] Pirate Russell: Anyway, I really want to IMPRESS on submissives especially, that y'all ARE ALLOWED TO BE HAPPY AND HAVE FUN!
[2008/10/21 7:23] Pirate Russell: ***IM*** stand, I'll show ***PW*** what a sub stance is!
[2008/10/21 7:23] Pirate Russell: imnaduw
[2008/10/21 7:23] ***PW***: lol
[2008/10/21 7:23] ***RJ*** giggles
[2008/10/21 7:24] Pirate Russell: That's a sub stance
[2008/10/21 7:24] ***RJ***: ad here i was expecting Open ;)
[2008/10/21 7:24] ***PW***: yeah - i see now
[2008/10/21 7:24] Pirate Russell: ry stand
[2008/10/21 7:24] ***IM*** giggles @ ***RJ***
[2008/10/21 7:24] Pirate Russell: ryopen
[2008/10/21 7:24] Pirate Russell: ask and you shall receive
[2008/10/21 7:24] ***XD***: lol
[2008/10/21 7:24] ***IM***: girl saw that on a mile away, Sis.
[2008/10/21 7:24] ***PW*** smiles
[2008/10/21 7:24] Pirate Russell: girl and ry may sit
[2008/10/21 7:25] ***IM***: Thank You.
[2008/10/21 7:25] ***PW***: yes thank you
[2008/10/21 7:25] Pirate Russell: I TRY not to inject too much D/s into class, it tends to shut down the communication
[2008/10/21 7:25] ***PW***: Really
[2008/10/21 7:25] ***PW***: i can see why :)
[2008/10/21 7:26] ***IM*** giggles
[2008/10/21 7:26] Pirate Russell: immute
[2008/10/21 7:26] Pirate Russell: he he
[2008/10/21 7:26] ***RJ***: some people don't like to speak up anyways - and if the feel they're interrupting something too ;)
[2008/10/21 7:26] Pirate Russell: immute on
[2008/10/21 7:26] ***IM***'s collar: ***IM*** is now mute.
[2008/10/21 7:26] Pirate Russell: immute off
[2008/10/21 7:26] ***IM***'s collar: ***IM*** is no longer mute.
[2008/10/21 7:26] ***RJ*** giggles
[2008/10/21 7:26] ***PW*** smiles
[2008/10/21 7:26] Pirate Russell whispers: That, too. I EXPECT participation, even if only in IM
[2008/10/21 7:27] ***PW***: Pirate
[2008/10/21 7:27] Pirate Russell: Aye?
[2008/10/21 7:27] ***PW***: would you take a few steps forward so that i can see your face
[2008/10/21 7:27] ***PW***: Please
[2008/10/21 7:27] ***PW***: thank you
[2008/10/21 7:28] Pirate Russell: Sure, no worries, it's a smaller group, I like to keep an eye on everyone
[2008/10/21 7:28] ***PW*** smiles
[2008/10/21 7:28] Pirate Russell: Not TOO disappointed, I hope! LOL
[2008/10/21 7:28] ***PW***: no - delighted
[2008/10/21 7:28] ***RJ***: i can't imagine why he might be ;)
[2008/10/21 7:29] Pirate Russell: he he, meanwhile, back at the subject matter... he he
[2008/10/21 7:29] ***PW***: lol
[2008/10/21 7:30] ***RJ*** giggles
[2008/10/21 7:30] ***IM***: Oooh. girl was enjoying Pirate 101.
[2008/10/21 7:31] Pirate Russell: What's that mute command?
[2008/10/21 7:32] ***RJ***: grins
[2008/10/21 7:32] ***RJ***: i'd have to check the script for that one
[2008/10/21 7:32] Pirate Russell: ***XD***, ***SD***, y'all are awfully quiet, no questions or comments?
[2008/10/21 7:32] ***PW***: so do all the subs here feel that they have been guided along the path similar to what Pirate described
[2008/10/21 7:32] ***RJ***: ***MA*** too - feel free to speak up like we are ;)
[2008/10/21 7:32] ***MA*** smiles
[2008/10/21 7:33] Pirate Russell: EP, sorry ***MA***, I appologize for the exclusion
[2008/10/21 7:33] ***MA***: ty
[2008/10/21 7:33] ***XD***: i have a bit of an off topic question... but its a bdsm SL question
[2008/10/21 7:33] ***RJ***: yes - with the ups and downs that prove we're human ;)
[2008/10/21 7:33] Pirate Russell officially opens ALL topics
[2008/10/21 7:33] Pirate Russell: Ask away!
[2008/10/21 7:34] ***XD***: i have 2 subs want the Restraned life viewer... but i am having hard time understanding it to use it.. .is there any good websites on that
[2008/10/21 7:34] Pirate Russell: Well, I actually have 2 experts sitting right here, and own them both!
[2008/10/21 7:35] ***XD***: yay!
[2008/10/21 7:35] ***RJ***: as a dom, you don't need to know much - and i don't know of a good website telling doms how to use it, unfortunately
[2008/10/21 7:35] ***XD***: ah ok
[2008/10/21 7:35] ***PW***: Marines :http://subbieunion.wordpress.com/tutorials/restrainedlifescripts/
[2008/10/21 7:35] ***XD***: i went to the website and read the notecard.. it looks so complicated
[2008/10/21 7:35] ***RJ***: most of what happens is communication between your sub's restraints and their viewer
[2008/10/21 7:35] Pirate Russell whispers: I wish there was a good site on what the subby sees when I......
[2008/10/21 7:35] ***XD***: LOL
[2008/10/21 7:35] ***XD***: thanks ***PW***, i'll look at that site
[2008/10/21 7:35] Pirate Russell bookmarks that one, too
[2008/10/21 7:36] ***PW***: it ok - she or he has a store also with RLV scripts
[2008/10/21 7:36] ***IM***: From a user point of view it's the equipment one needs to understand. But for a technical introduction i'll get the URLs if youlike.
[2008/10/21 7:36] ***XD***: :-)
[2008/10/21 7:36] ***RJ***: same here
[2008/10/21 7:36] ***XD***: ah ok
[2008/10/21 7:36] Pirate Russell: I'm serious, like when I put blindfold them what they see, etc
[2008/10/21 7:37] ***RJ***: i suppose the main thing to know is that the viewer can restrict things like TPing, flight, chat and IM and inventory
[2008/10/21 7:37] ***PW***: the scripts can be placed into most lockable devices to malke them RLV compatable
[2008/10/21 7:37] Pirate Russell: I see huds detatched ALL The time, what huds! LOL
[2008/10/21 7:37] ***IM***: girl would be willing to demonstrate for You, Mistress.
[2008/10/21 7:37] Pirate Russell: I bet she would! LOTS of screen shots for girl to upload?
[2008/10/21 7:37] ***PW*** smiles
[2008/10/21 7:37] ***IM***: Oh, girl was going to loan You her shackles and blindfold
[2008/10/21 7:37] ***RJ***: so getting an idea of just what you're restricting is a good thing - so you don't block someone's IMs if you intended to leave then available ;)
[2008/10/21 7:38] ***RJ***: giggles
[2008/10/21 7:38] ***XD***: blocking IMs might be a bit too much
[2008/10/21 7:38] ***XD***: but i could restrain other things
[2008/10/21 7:38] Pirate Russell: Yes, IM's, speech, hearing
[2008/10/21 7:38] ***XD***: he likes to be tied to the wall when i log off
[2008/10/21 7:39] ***RJ***: that depends on the sub
[2008/10/21 7:39] ***XD***: or in a box
[2008/10/21 7:39] Pirate Russell: Inv, location, knowing who is speaking
[2008/10/21 7:39] ***XD***: lol
[2008/10/21 7:39] Pirate Russell: etc
[2008/10/21 7:39] ***XD***: yeah
[2008/10/21 7:39] ***RJ***: one of my friends i haven't been able to IM with for about 3 months now, except for one day ;)
[2008/10/21 7:39] ***XD***: wow
[2008/10/21 7:39] ***PW***: even enforced baldness and barefeet
[2008/10/21 7:40] ***PW***: thats harsh the im thing though
[2008/10/21 7:40] ***XD***: it sounds fun.. i will keep learning about it and figure it out :-)
[2008/10/21 7:40] ***MA*** looks amazed
[2008/10/21 7:40] ***PW***: can always relog in SL client
[2008/10/21 7:40] ***PW***: im
[2008/10/21 7:40] Pirate Russell: Enforced nudity, or keeping certain clothing on
[2008/10/21 7:40] ***XD***: i don't think i will restrict IMS.. communication is too important to me
[2008/10/21 7:40] ***PW***: then relog in RLV
[2008/10/21 7:40] Pirate Russell: Can restrict for everyone BUT you!
[2008/10/21 7:40] ***IM***: If one has the SL client loaded on their system seperately, that is.
[2008/10/21 7:41] ***PW***: well yes
[2008/10/21 7:41] ***PW***: but having the two apps is piss
[2008/10/21 7:41] Pirate Russell: Or if they use Cool Viewer it's just a tick of a box on the Cool Features page
[2008/10/21 7:41] ***XD***: hmmm.. so the sub needs 2 separate SL? one with RLV and one not?
[2008/10/21 7:42] ***RJ***: the 2 can be in the same folder, just use a different main executable
[2008/10/21 7:42] ***XD***: i see
[2008/10/21 7:42] Pirate Russell: or a different shortcut..
[2008/10/21 7:42] ***RJ***: and for almost anything, the RLV works as well as the LL viewer
[2008/10/21 7:43] ***IM***: Some, like the Cool Viewer work better.
[2008/10/21 7:43] ***PW***: yeah - a few friends use that
[2008/10/21 7:43] ***RJ***: the only thing i'd need the linden viewer for is if i need to work around restriction in an emergency - not a very common occurence ;)
[2008/10/21 7:43] Pirate Russell swears BY Cool Viewer, and AT the LL "viewer"
[2008/10/21 7:43] ***RJ***: same here ;)
[2008/10/21 7:43] ***XD***: lol
[2008/10/21 7:43] ***RJ***: especially if you don't have tons of system memory, the cool viewer helps
[2008/10/21 7:44] ***PW***: i have not tried it
[2008/10/21 7:44] ***XD***: ok.. i'll look for Cool Viewer as well
[2008/10/21 7:44] ***PW***: i have it on my mac
[2008/10/21 7:44] ***MA*** raises her hand
[2008/10/21 7:44] Pirate Russell: Linux AND windows, here
[2008/10/21 7:44] ***PW***: i may test it
[2008/10/21 7:44] Pirate Russell: Yes, ***MA***?
[2008/10/21 7:44] ***RJ***: http://my.opera.com/boylane/blog/ for the windows cool viewer
[2008/10/21 7:44] ***MA***: Miss Pirate, i am a very new sub
[2008/10/21 7:44] Pirate Russell: Welcome to the Lifesytle!
[2008/10/21 7:44] ***XD***: thanks ***RJ***
[2008/10/21 7:45] ***PW***: cheers
[2008/10/21 7:45] ***MA***: thank you
[2008/10/21 7:45] ***MA***: i am still learning the basics
[2008/10/21 7:45] ***MA***: i think i know how to behave with my Master
[2008/10/21 7:45] ***MA***: and am sure that He will let me know if i am wrong
[2008/10/21 7:46] Pirate Russell: I'm SURE he'll help girl with that! LOL
[2008/10/21 7:46] ***IM***: The technical description of the Restrained Life viewer is at http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LSL_Protocol/RestrainedLifeAPI and information about the relay is at http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LSL_Protocol/Restrained_Life_Relay_Specs. But the SL wiki seems to be down again and girl can't get to the page to make sure she typed those correctly.
[2008/10/21 7:46] ***MA***: but i am unsure how to behave in groups like this
[2008/10/21 7:46] ***MA***: the proper forms of address for example
[2008/10/21 7:46] ***XD***: thanks ***IM***!
[2008/10/21 7:46] Pirate Russell: Well, My girls, and ry, are trained to treat eveyone BETTER than they treat Me!
[2008/10/21 7:46] ***MA***: I asked Him how to address you
[2008/10/21 7:46] ***MA***: hehe
[2008/10/21 7:46] ***IM*** giggles
[2008/10/21 7:47] Pirate Russell: I am their Mistress, they're to Sir, Ma'am, Miss, etc EVERYONE else, unless corrected by another subby
[2008/10/21 7:48] Pirate Russell: er I'm the only one they're to call Mistress/no Masters...
[2008/10/21 7:48] ***RJ***: hello trinity, come on in - we're in open discussion
[2008/10/21 7:48] Pirate Russell: Yes PLEASE do!
[2008/10/21 7:48] Trinity Coulter: hi ***RJ***, thank you
[2008/10/21 7:48] ***PW***: yeah the one i have is the cool sl viewer 1.20. 15
[2008/10/21 7:48] ***PW***: i digress
[2008/10/21 7:48] Pirate Russell: Second Life 1.21.5 (0) Oct 8 2008 00:04:05 (Cool SL Viewer)
[2008/10/21 7:49] ***PW***: Sorry Miss
[2008/10/21 7:49] ***PW***: :)
[2008/10/21 7:49] ***IM***: There is a security hole in that version, Sir, you may want to upgrade that viewer.
[2008/10/21 7:49] Pirate Russell: No worries
[2008/10/21 7:49] ***RJ***: and, terms of addres for other people is always a touchy point ***MA***
[2008/10/21 7:49] ***PW***: to the link you sent
[2008/10/21 7:49] ***MA***: so Miss or Sir is correct for anyone until i know their correct title?
[2008/10/21 7:49] Pirate Russell: Yes, ***MA***, UNLESS.....
[2008/10/21 7:49] Pirate Russell: Unless your master trains you differently
[2008/10/21 7:49] ***RJ***: just be respectful and follow any instructions your master gives, and you shouldn't offend too many people
[2008/10/21 7:50] ***MA*** nods
[2008/10/21 7:50] ***MA***: thank you all
[2008/10/21 7:50] ***PW***: if polite ***MA*** i would be happy what you said - and correct you if appropriate
[2008/10/21 7:50] ***RJ***: there will always be someone who gets insulted that you didn't call her "oh ultimate goddess mistress"
[2008/10/21 7:50] ***PW***: your right Pirate
[2008/10/21 7:51] Pirate Russell: EEP, did I leave the "Ultimate Goddess Mistress" tag on AGAIN?!
[2008/10/21 7:51] ***RJ*** giggles
[2008/10/21 7:51] ***IM***: hehe
[2008/10/21 7:51] ***RJ***: if you have that - or want to be called that - i don't know about it ;)
[2008/10/21 7:52] ***RJ***: and people who do want florid ttles like that usually lose some of my respect right away
[2008/10/21 7:53] ***RJ***: to clarify how i deal with people - with respect until proven not worthy of respect ;)
[2008/10/21 7:53] ***PW***: yes - i agree
[2008/10/21 7:53] Pirate Russell: And still politely after that, I would hope!
[2008/10/21 7:54] ***IM***: Or with respect until girl can get away.
[2008/10/21 7:54] Pirate Russell: Since you're a new subby, ***MA***, let Me tell you 2 secrets of Online BDSM
[2008/10/21 7:55] Pirate Russell: 1st, just because I'm a Dominant, I'm not YOUR dominant
[2008/10/21 7:55] ***MA*** listens intently
[2008/10/21 7:55] ***MA*** msiles
[2008/10/21 7:55] Pirate Russell: 2nd) you have ALL the power. You can take off the collar, mute your master, ban him from your parcel, and there's nothing he can do about it
[2008/10/21 7:56] ***MA***: oh my!
[2008/10/21 7:56] ***PW*** smiles
[2008/10/21 7:56] ***RJ***: but, the thrill usually is in giving up that power ;)
[2008/10/21 7:56] ***IM*** nods.
[2008/10/21 7:56] ***MA*** nods and smiles!
[2008/10/21 7:56] Pirate Russell: Yes, I do a class on that, maybe in a couple of weeks, I have PLANNED next week's class.. he he
[2008/10/21 7:57] ***PW***: what is that ?
[2008/10/21 7:57] ***IM***: The sub gives the gift and the Dom/me receives it. And it is a gift that can be taken back, espically here in SL.
[2008/10/21 7:57] ***PW***: it does work the other way also
[2008/10/21 7:57] Pirate Russell: Not just here in SL, ***IM***, in WoW, SOL... he he
[2008/10/21 7:58] ***IM***: Although if you do you tend to get a lot of nasty messages sent via thrid parties.
[2008/10/21 7:59] Steel Shackle 1.14 (r forearm) whispers: ***KC*** gathers what's left of her energy to fight her Steel Shackle 1.14 (r forearm) some more...
[2008/10/21 8:00] ***PW***: Well beautiful people i have to go - PCR reactions are needed
[2008/10/21 8:00] ***MA***: well, it took me some time to get Him to catch me. So i'm not going anywhere
[2008/10/21 8:00] ***IM***: PCR, Oh! *giggle*
[2008/10/21 8:00] ***PW***: its been nice to spend some time with you
[2008/10/21 8:00] Pirate Russell: Ok, thanks for coming ***PW***?
[2008/10/21 8:00] ***PW***: thank you Pirate
[2008/10/21 8:01] ***IM***: bye Sir ***PW***
[2008/10/21 8:01] ***PW***: take care
[2008/10/21 8:01] ***KC***: goodbye Sir
[2008/10/21 8:01] Pirate Russell: I KEEP asking for stairs!
[2008/10/21 8:01] ***PW***: hmmm to escaper
[2008/10/21 8:01] ***XD***: yeah we need stairs haha
[2008/10/21 8:01] Pirate Russell: I've asked Vv and AllyA for them... he he
[2008/10/21 8:03] Pirate Russell: What else ***MA***
[2008/10/21 8:03] ***MA***: that is a good question Miss Pirate
[2008/10/21 8:04] Pirate Russell: he he
[2008/10/21 8:04] ***MA***: it is a bit overwhelming
[2008/10/21 8:04] Pirate Russell: Much easier to ask, than for girl to answer!
[2008/10/21 8:04] ***MA*** smiles, Exactly
[2008/10/21 8:05] ***MA***: i don't even know what to ask at this point
[2008/10/21 8:05] ***MA***: i have been collared 3 days now
[2008/10/21 8:05] ***IM***: Miss Pirate does repeat Her classes on Friday at 1:00 SLT so it's a good time to come back after some of this digests.
[2008/10/21 8:05] Pirate Russell: I'll tell ya what, IM Me ANYtime, and if your master wants to spring for lessons, I'll give y'all a deal, it's usually 1250 an hr for 4 hrs, I'll come down to 1k an hr, and no minimum
[2008/10/21 8:05] Pirate Russell: That, too!
[2008/10/21 8:06] ***MA***: hehe
[2008/10/21 8:06] Pirate Russell: THANKS, girl, cutting My action?!?!
[2008/10/21 8:06] ***MA***: thank You Miss Pirate
[2008/10/21 8:07] ***SD***: Thank you Miss Pirate once again for a great discussion.
[2008/10/21 8:08] ***XD***: i need to go.. thanks for all the good information and advice and websites.. i appreciate it
[2008/10/21 8:08] Pirate Russell: Sure thing ***XD***, like ***IM*** said, Friday 1p
[2008/10/21 8:08] ***XD***: ok
[2008/10/21 8:08] ***IM***: and don't forget the transcripst on collegeofkink.blogspot.com
[2008/10/21 8:08] ***XD***: yes i wrote all the websites down
[2008/10/21 8:09] ***XD***: :-)
[2008/10/21 8:09] ***XD***: thanks
[2008/10/21 8:09] Pirate Russell: Yep http://collegeofkink.blogspot.com
[2008/10/21 8:09] ***RJ***: good luck with your sub's RLV ;)
[2008/10/21 8:09] ***XD***: thanks!
[2008/10/21 8:09] ***RJ***: luckily so far there's been no need for the dom life viewer ;)
[2008/10/21 8:09] ***IM*** giggles
[2008/10/21 8:10] ***XD***: i just need to figure out how if i need an older version of SL.. and how to do the commands
[2008/10/21 8:11] ***RJ***: the commands are sent by the items, if they are RLV supporting
[2008/10/21 8:11] ***XD***: oh i see
[2008/10/21 8:11] ***RJ***: which items are you planning to use?
[2008/10/21 8:11] ***XD***: one has cuffs .. but i was unable to access the menu.. nothing happened
[2008/10/21 8:11] ***RJ***: and - the sub will need to make sure their RLV version is the same as what their SL install is
[2008/10/21 8:12] ***XD***: we need to but more of the RLV items
[2008/10/21 8:12] ***XD***: yes
[2008/10/21 8:12] ***RJ***: but that's usually made pretty clear
[2008/10/21 8:12] ***XD***: oh ok
[2008/10/21 8:12] ***RJ***: a lot of items are RLV supporting out of the box
[2008/10/21 8:12] ***XD***: i bet thats the problem
[2008/10/21 8:12] ***XD***: i will ask
[2008/10/21 8:12] ***RJ***: or tere's a menu item in others to activate RLV support
[2008/10/21 8:13] ***RJ***: the wrong RLV version shouldn't make cuffs unresponsive though
[2008/10/21 8:13] ***XD***: hmmm
[2008/10/21 8:13] ***XD***: i clicked andd nothing happened, i got no menu
[2008/10/21 8:13] ***RJ***: i might look at other causes - like no script zone?
[2008/10/21 8:14] ***XD***: oh one signed on
[2008/10/21 8:14] ***RJ***: if it is RealRestraint cuffs, they only can be touched from within a 3M range
[2008/10/21 8:14] ***XD***: my sub friend
[2008/10/21 8:14] ***RJ***: so sometimes be sure youre right next to them if there's problems
[2008/10/21 8:14] ***XD***: i bet he has wrong version.. he got cuffs from a friend and doesn't know anything about them
[2008/10/21 8:14] Pirate Russell: Or someone else holds the 'keys' to them
[2008/10/21 8:14] ***XD***: hmmmmm
[2008/10/21 8:14] ***RJ***: also a possibility
[2008/10/21 8:15] ***XD***: thats a possibility yes!!
[2008/10/21 8:15] ***XD***: lol
[2008/10/21 8:15] ***RJ***: which brand of cuffs are they?
[2008/10/21 8:15] ***XD***: we are both learning it
[2008/10/21 8:15] ***XD***: gosh i don't remember now
[2008/10/21 8:15] ***RJ***: smiles
[2008/10/21 8:16] ***XD***: but at least we are learning together :-)
[2008/10/21 8:16] ***XD***: well ok.. i need to go
[2008/10/21 8:17] ***RJ***: have fun ;)
[2008/10/21 8:17] ***XD***: i'll see you all later
[2008/10/21 8:17] ***XD***: :-)
[2008/10/21 8:17] ***KC*** smiles at ***XD*** since that is what Mistress and girl are doing
[2008/10/21 8:17] ***MA***: thank You all so much
[2008/10/21 8:17] ***XD***: hehe
[2008/10/21 8:17] Pirate Russell: Ok, ***XD***, thanks for coming, ***MA***, too!
[2008/10/21 8:17] ***RJ***: no problem ***MA*** - glad to see you ;)
[2008/10/21 8:18] ***MA*** smiles
[2008/10/21 8:18] ***MA***: my Master is in the club, i'm going to join Him.
[2008/10/21 8:18] ***KC***: Miss Pirate girl has to go now. there is a bed calling girl's name.
[2008/10/21 8:18] ***MA***: see you soon i hope
[2008/10/21 8:18] ***IM***: Good luck and best wishes, Bagnolia.
[2008/10/21 8:18] ***KC***: it was a great discussion
[2008/10/21 8:18] ***IM***: er Magnoila
[2008/10/21 8:18] Pirate Russell: Ok, ***KC***, and My regards to girl's master, ***MA***
[2008/10/21 8:18] ***MA***: hehe
[2008/10/21 8:19] ***MA***: thank you Miss Pirate
[2008/10/21 8:19] Pirate Russell: !hug ***KC***
[2008/10/21 8:19] HelloMultiTool-v7 (hug/kiss/goto/etc): You have offered to hug ***KC***.
[2008/10/21 8:19] ***MA***: Please all, call me ***MA***
[2008/10/21 8:19] Pirate Russell: I'll do it
[2008/10/21 8:19] Pirate gives ***KC*** a big hug.
[2008/10/21 8:19] ***KC***: that 's very cute Miss
[2008/10/21 8:19] Pirate Russell: Sleep well, little one
[2008/10/21 8:20] ***IM***: Bye ***MA*** :-)
[2008/10/21 8:20] ***KC***: thank You Miss
[2008/10/21 8:20] ***KC***: ok good bye all
[2008/10/21 8:20] Pirate Russell: ni ni
[2008/10/21 8:21] Teleport completed from http://slurl.com/secondlife/Chained%20lust/166/71/47
[2008/10/21 8:21] Skybox Radar: ***IM*** Arrived at your parcel, HoV Gold, on 2008-10-21 at 8:21 SLT
[2008/10/21 8:21] Skybox Radar: Pirate Russell Arrived at your parcel, HoV Gold, on 2008-10-21 at 8:21 SLT
[2008/10/21 8:21] Skybox Radar: ***RJ*** Arrived at your parcel, HoV Gold, on 2008-10-21 at 8:21 SLT
[2008/10/21 8:21] Pirate Russell: MUCH better song! he he

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